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From: Joshua Kinard <kumba@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:35:46
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! by Richard Yao
On 03/14/2012 19:27, Richard Yao wrote:

> On 03/14/12 18:49, Greg KH wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 06:39:05PM -0400, Richard Yao wrote: >>> With that said, I have a few questions: >>> >>> 1. Why does no one mention the enterprise use case at all? >> >> It has been pointed out before, why constantly repeat ourselves. > > Simple. No one has documented it. A webpage that makes a few vague > references to "enterprise use" does not count as documentation. > > I happened to figure it out when trying to rationalize why anyone would > want this, but this is hardly obvious to those that imagine a computer > as a self-sufficient single disk system.
You'll also find a lot of enterprise-specific decisions went into IPv6, without necessarily stating them as being enterprise-specific. I.e., the requirement for Unique Local Addresses, which are IPv6's idea of RFC1918, required to be "globally-unique". When I quizzed someone about this one (I think it was on ServerFault somewhere), I was basically told that "IPv6 is not for home use".
>>> 2. Why not make rootfs a NFS mount with a unionfs at the SAN/NAS device? >> >> unionfs is still a "work in progress", some systems can't do that yet. > > That sounds like something that needs to be fixed.
I thought UnionFS died? Or was better handled by other "tricks" involving filesystem overlays?
>>> 3. Why not let the users choose where these directories go and support >>> both locations? >> >> Because a plethera of options is a sure way to make sure that half of >> them don't work over the long run. >> >> We aren't Debian here people, we don't support "everything" :) > > Gentoo provides far more options than Debian does, so this seems > somewhat contradictory to me.
Agreed. Debian is focused on an entirely different model of building a Linux system, thus they have a narrower dependency chain and you sometimes have to include packages that you don't necessarily care for because they're required by a package that you do want to use. We have USE flags to resolve that issue. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS kumba@g.o 4096R/D25D95E3 2011-03-28 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between." --Emperor Turhan, Centauri Republic


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