Gentoo Archives: gentoo-dev

From: Sam James <sam@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: PR team <pr@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] 2021-11-23-mariadb-database-restore-maybe-required: add item
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 00:47:33
Message-Id: F5C091D8-3ED5-4239-8236-146F2BD3CE1E@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] 2021-11-23-mariadb-database-restore-maybe-required: add item by Thomas Deutschmann
1 > On 25 Nov 2021, at 13:59, Thomas Deutschmann <whissi@g.o> wrote:
2 > If you do a normal world upgrade, this is the default portage behavior, not? I.e. package manager will downgrade if you don't stop. And especially on servers, people tend to use cronjobs/scripts to do that...
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4 I would really not recommend doing this and I say this regularly. We expect users to:
5 - read elog output;
6 - read news items first;
7 - read pkg_pretend / pkg_postinst output which may be critical and needed to be acted on soon (even if it's accompanied by a news item, although it isn't always).
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9 Should we try to improve that situation? Yeah, I think so, but that's really not the case right now.
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11 > And forcefully here refers to the undesirable result (at least that was my intention). Something the user doesn't want.
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13 As we've discussed at length during the "Bitcoin consent" issue (wrt Taproot), users are expected to read and verify world upgrade output before proceeding.
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15 We have similar issues with e.g. new major glibc versions (you shouldn't do this unless you're in a position to restart at least several services).

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