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On 6/14/07, Abhay Kedia <abhay.ilugd@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> On Thursday 14 Jun 2007 1:54:51 am Vlastimil Babka wrote: |
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> > But maybe Skype is not so pressing to upgrade, just doesn't provide |
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> > distfiles anymore. Then maybe we don't have to obey, but still it's |
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> > really questionable if it should be marked stable at all. |
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> Then don't mark it stable but dropping it from the tree altogether? That is |
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> taking it a bit too far imho. |
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> > And yeah I'm a Java dev but at least Java is now open (I admit that the |
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> > stable VM's in tree are not, yet) and I don't see that coming for Skype. |
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> > Also Java (and your examples of closed source stuff) are not infamous |
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> > for the bad stuff mentioned above. |
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> Has any one done the same kind of analysis on all the closed source |
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> applications we have in tree? If we take an alternate view on the wikipedia |
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> link then it can be said that it is just an attempt for spreading FUD while |
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> trying to pimp Open Source alternatives? |
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> Don't get me wrong...I love open source and that is one of the reasons why I |
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> have been using GNU/Linux for many years but acting paranoid and dropping |
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> popular packages from tree is not something, I as a common user, would like |
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> to see. This is the only reason I am poking my nose in the workings of devs. |
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Indeed, if you were to drop all non-opensource _games_ from the tree |
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you'd loose most, if not all of your popular mainstream games, and |
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we'd have become another debian ;), and one of the big 'gotchas' i've |
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loathed about debian for many years is their "zomg!..its not 'free'!.. |
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extradite it to the abyss!" , and thus for many years MP3 support and |
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many other applications were just the same as red hat, ... either |
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broken, limited functionality due to 'freeness' , or downright missing |
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altogether. ( anyone remember the pre-sun-java-in-debian days? ) |
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I love free software as much as the next guy, but sometimes you want |
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to use something non-free, regardless of status, and regardless of how |
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much it sucks ;) |
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*ducks* |
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Gentoo is about choices, one of those choices is the choice to install |
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closed-source software, or software with well documented evils, the |
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best thing we can do is warn users what they're getting themselves |
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into and let them make an informed decision IMO. |
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Kent |
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ruby -e '[1, 2, 4, 7, 0, 9, 5, 8, 3, 10, 11, 6, 12, 13].each{|x| |
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print "enNOSPicAMreil kdrtf@×××.com"[(2*x)..(2*x+1)]}' |
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