Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

[Carsten Lohrke]

On Sunday 08 January 2006 15:01, Brian Harring wrote:
> Guessing you missed the previous flame war about how trying to force
> people to do something doesn't actually work?

When it's not common sense, that every dev is supposed to do a minimal on 
general QA, Gentoo has a problem.

> You're assuming seasoned devs don't occasionally go MIA on
> QA/maintenance?  It's not the case...

I did not assume anything, I propose better QA.

> > but would slowdown those who continually add new
> > packages [ snip vitriolic opinions ]

Thanks for calling something a vitriolic opinion, I did notice a few times, so 
it's a description of what's happening, but does not imply the majority of 
devs do so.

> If you've got an issue with certain devs (seems to be the case from
> your statement), take it up with QA/ombudsman, not the loop
> around attempt you're doing here.
>
> If you're after trying to decrease the unmaintained packages, like I
> said, generate a list _from the tree_, compare it to bugs, etc.  Do
> the legwork, kick off the effort to cover the gap.
>
> Basically, you want to decrease bugs for unmaintained, decrease the
> gap of maintained vs unmaintained, work on _that_ rather then trying
> to force everyone to drop what they're doing and fix an issue they're
> already working on at their own pace.
>
> Folks *are* handling retirement of unmaintained packages, and taking
> on maintainance of packages already- just watch -dev for the
> occasional announcements if you think otherwise.

To answer this paragraph in a short sentence: No, it doesn't work at the 
moment, and yes I'd like everyone would be urged to care a bit more, not 
leaving the legwork to a single person or small group, accepting that devs 
can feel as irresponsible as they like.


Carsten