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foser wrote: [Sat Jun 11 2005, 04:15:22AM EDT] |
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> Arch keywords are concepts and as such may not primarily be dealt as |
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> a an alphabetical list but as words in a sentence, there is no abc |
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> order in sentences. |
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Foser, no offense intended, but you started out in this thread making |
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a couple good points. However this is completely off the wall. The |
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KEYWORDS list isn't a sentence. |
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> If you have to search, you'll have |
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> to scan anyway, exact position is not a guarantee for certainty because |
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> not every pack is available on every arch, it's not like you can go |
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> without scanning. |
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Doesn't change the point that scanning in alpha order is easier than |
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scanning append order. |
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> Last, this only holds to some extent true for people |
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> in countries with alphabetic scripts, outside that limited part of the |
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> globe people are not as proficient in ordering alphabetically. |
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AFAIK, all Gentoo developers are fluent English speakers, even if for |
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some it isn't their first language. |
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> A certain amount of uncertainty in order actually might prove to be |
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> effective in having everyone who deals with keywords actually really |
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> check all keywords and not depend on assumptions, which both 'error' |
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> cases you mention seem to be caused by. |
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Maintaining a behavior that encourages mistakes, in hopes that the |
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extra effort required will prevent those mistakes? This cannot |
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possibly be a good approach... |
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IMHO the discussion in this thread has brought at least two things to |
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light, though I'm still open to rebuttal of course: |
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1. Potentially controversial tool changes that affect a large |
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number of developers should be discussed on -dev before |
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deployment. This is something I intend to do in the future. |
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2. In the case at hand, most developers prefer alpha order, and |
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there is not good reason for reverting the ekeyword change. |
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I still don't have the right to make this decision |
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unilaterally, though, so if foser or anybody else wants to take |
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this before the managers and request a vote, that is cool. |
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Regards, |
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Aron |
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Aron Griffis |
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