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From: hasufell <hasufell@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] minimalistic emerge
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 13:23:41
Message-Id: 53E4CF4F.3080508@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] minimalistic emerge by Igor
1 Igor:
2 > Hi,
3 >
4 > About 60% of all the packages are installed and work with nodep flag
5 > without any problems for years. Most of the maintainers just depend on new
6 > packages not knowing if it's necessary or not resulting in a really HUGE
7 > update that in the absolute majority of cases destabilize GENTOO making it
8 > not operational and WORSE than it was before. You then STABILIZE it again
9 > spending hours and then the story repeats itself.
10 >
11 > Experience show that out of 20 new dependencies pulled by
12 > emerge only 1 is critical and really needed to assemble the target.
13 >
14 > Is there any option in emerge to pull MINIMUM packages to
15 > get the result - install the application you need, leaving everything else
16 > AS IS untouched and stable?
17 >
18 > I would rather prefer and many would agree to use this kind of
19 > install instead of a full system update by default.
20 >
21 > Is there any USE flag that can switch system to this kind of update instead
22 > of conventional? If no such USE flag, what about stabilize gentoo with
23 > STABILIZED flag implementation in make.conf?
24 >
25 > Whoever needs everything new - can continue fighting with nature,
26 > the rest of us who has a limited life span - well, they might go for
27 > STABILIZED flag and live happily ever after.
28 >
29 > What do you think?
30 >
31 >
32
33 Maybe try paludis.
34
35 It allows more fine-grained control over the dependency resolution process:
36 http://paludis.exherbo.org/clients/cave-resolve.html