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From: Matthew Thode <prometheanfire@g.o>
To: "Matija Šuklje" <matija@××××××.name>
Cc: licenses@g.o, Ulrich Mueller <ulm@g.o>, gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: spotify license
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:09:12
Message-Id: 508FED77.2090505@gentoo.org
1 On 10/29/2012 03:32 PM, Matija Šuklje wrote:
2 > On Ponedeljek 29. of October 2012 15.52.20 Ulrich Mueller wrote:
3 >>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2012, Matthew Thode wrote:
4 >>> It's looking hard to be able to add the spotify ebuild to tree because
5 >>> of licensing concerns.
6 >>>
7 >>> http://www.spotify.com/us/legal/end-user-agreement/
8 >>
9 >> This concerns not so much the client software, but their "service" and
10 >> the contents provided through it.
11 >
12 > Well, the “Spotify Software” is included at least it §4 and also in general
13 > included in the “service” term. The license agreement is lacking though.
14 >
15 > In any case Gentoo can’t be the 3rd party here and therefore not redistribute
16 > it.
17 >
18 >>> 10:02 < prometheanfire > do you have a plaintext version? I can copy
19 >>> the text, but just thought I'd ask :D
20 >>> 10:02 < dan^spotify > No, and copy+pasting it into a text file isn't
21 >>> something we really want you to to do, since it changes from time-to-time
22 >>> 10:04 < prometheanfire > ok, I'll see what the proper course of action
23 >>> is, I think you have us accept the license on first start right?
24 >>> 10:04 < dan^spotify > Correct
25 >>> 10:04 < dan^spotify > Well, first login
26 >>> 10:05 < prometheanfire > just as good probably
27 >>> 10:05 < dan^spotify > If you've already accepted the most up-to-date
28 >>> license on another machine, you won't be prompted again
29 >>>
30 >>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373093
31 >>>
32 >>> They want it to be accepted through the app. Is there a way this is
33 >>> compatible with Gentoo?
34 >>
35 >> We need a plaintext license file for the client that we put in
36 >> ${PORTDIR}licenses/, so users can look at it before they install the
37 >> package.
38 >
39 > Yup.
40 >
41 > They probably deem §§ 3 and 4 to be the license, but it’s quite lacking IMHO.
42 > So since full copyright is default, this means that we’re not allowed to
43 > redistribute it. RESTRICT="mirror" we have to do here.
44 >
45 > As a sub-optimal solution, Rich’s idea to create a Spotify license and point
46 > the users to the actual EULA.
47 >
48 > But unless they clarify the software license for their *client*, I’d rather we
49 > don’t include it. Too messy.
50 >
51 >> Maybe it would make more sense to add one of the free alternatives?
52 >>
53 >> http://despotify.se/
54 >> https://gitorious.org/libopenspotify
55 >>
56 >> media-sound/despotify is already in Sunrise, bug 307795.
57 >
58 > Seems a better idea IMHO.
59 >
60 >
61 > cheers,
62 > Matija
63 >
64 > P.S. As Rich mentioned, the difference between a (real) license and “license
65 > agreement” is that a license grants you more rights then you get by law and
66 > therefore you don’t have to agree to it, since your rights are not diminished;
67 > a so called license agreement (EULA, ToS, whatever_agreement) has nothing to
68 > do with a (real) license apart from the falsely borrowed name and you have to
69 > agree with it, since your statutory rights are diminished/voided.
70 >
71
72 Got confirmation via irc that the license is for the client as well,
73 dunno if that's good enough...
74
75 --
76 -- Matthew Thode (prometheanfire)

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