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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] 'Gentoo Linux' bugzilla component reorganization
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 05:30:43
Message-Id: 20160616073022.060de8d3.mgorny@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] 'Gentoo Linux' bugzilla component reorganization by "Andreas K. Huettel"
1 On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 00:01:52 +0200
2 "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > > Right now we have the following components:
5 > >
6 > > - Applications,
7 > merge with unspecified
8
9 Merging is impossible.
10
11 > > - Core system,
12 > autoassign to base-system?
13
14 Will base-system handle systemd bugs? I doubt it. It reminds me of
15 auto-assignment to games which resulted in many bugs hitting /dev/null.
16
17 > > - Development,
18 > makes no sense, merge with unspecified
19 >
20 > > - Eclasses and Profiles,
21 > split into eclasses and profiles
22
23 Splitting is impossible. I can create two new components, if you
24 insist, and disable the old one.
25
26 > > - Games,
27 > merge with applications
28 >
29 > > - Java,
30 > auto-assign to java
31
32 Why is Java special? Just because nobody uses it?
33
34 > > - Library,
35 > merge with unspecified
36 >
37 > > - Printing,
38 > either autoassign to printing or merge with unspecified
39 >
40 > > - Server,
41 > does anyone actually use this?
42
43 Yes. Reasons unclear.
44
45 > > - All packages,
46 > > - Core system [includes baselayout],
47 > > - Eclasses and Profiles,
48 > > - GCC Porting,
49 > > - Hardened,
50 > > - Keywording & Stabilization,
51 > > - New packages ('New ebuilds' previously),
52 > > - SELinux.
53 > >
54 >
55 > This is pretty close to the result of above reassignment, however,...
56 >
57 > > Keeping the big pseudo-category split doesn't make much sense as most
58 > > of the packages can't be fit easily into a specific group and it only
59 > > confuses users. GNOME & KDE aren't very clear either, especially for
60 > > non-core packages (like: is systemd a GNOME package?). Having them
61 > > skip bug-wranglers doesn't sound really helpful.
62 >
63 > Keeping the big desktop environments would be nice; anything that is a large,
64 > logical group of packages maintained by one team.
65 >
66 > Like, auto-assigning kde to kde and gnome to gnome.
67 >
68 > Of course upstream doesn't really help with their destructive tendencies.
69 > ("There is no KDE5, only Frameworks, Plasma and Applications.")
70
71 But there are non-core KDE apps that are not maintained by KDE team,
72 and GNOME apps that are not maintained by GNOME team. Users usually
73 don't check maintainers before choosing a component...
74
75 --
76 Best regards,
77 Michał Górny
78 <http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/>

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] 'Gentoo Linux' bugzilla component reorganization "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@g.o>