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From: Donnie Berkholz <spyderous@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] xfree, synaptics, and kernel 2.6.x
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 02:49:20
Message-Id: 1066790953.21017.27.camel@sfa237013.richmond.edu
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] xfree, synaptics, and kernel 2.6.x by Eric Sammer
1 On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 22:11, Eric Sammer wrote:
2 > Donnie Berkholz wrote:
3 > > It works as is anyway, so what's the point?
4 >
5 > The point was that if the version of the synaptics driver changes prior
6 > to the release of the xfree .15 ebuild, it would require those of us
7 > using it to recompile xfree at least one extra time.
8
9 There's no requirement to recompile xfree unless you _need_ a feature of
10 the newer synaptics driver. Yes it is nice to have the latest version,
11 but there's no purpose unless you require a fix in it.
12
13 I'm glad you can appreciate my counterargument.
14
15 > The alternate
16 > argument is that it would force those not using it to recompile X and
17 > yes, that is obviously a much larger number. Also, it seemed redundant
18 > to have a synaptics ebuild that is just sitting there and have the xfree
19 > ebuild doing it "by hand."
20
21 I committed the synaptics ebuild in advance so I would have one less
22 thing to do later. The xfree "by hand" synaptics is legacy, since as I
23 said it wasn't possible to compile the synaptics driver externally until
24 0.11.8, which was released just under two weeks ago.
25
26 > It makes maintaining it difficult by having
27 > it in two places.
28
29 There is nearly zero maintenance cost within the xfree ebuild for the
30 synaptics driver (simply change the driver version and go), and similar
31 holds true for the ebuild. I expect any extra maintenance caused between
32 13 October (when I committed synaptics) and whenever 4.3.99.15 is
33 released to be negligible.
34
35 > There is also the fact that xfree 4.3.99.* is still
36 > masked so I didn't think releasing a new version of the ebuild would be
37 > a big deal as it is uber-unstable.
38
39 In actuality, it is not uber-unstable. I've been running 4.3.99.x for a
40 fair while and have yet to encounter a crash that is 4.3.99.x-specific.
41 It's masked by virtue of being a development series.
42
43 > It's rather subjective, and as someone who has to use the combination in
44 > question (xfree 4.3.99.x, synaptics, and the 2.6 kernel series (due to
45 > an IGP320M chipset)), it would be easier to have the xfree ebuild use
46 > the synaptics ebuild rather than pull it in itself.
47
48 You don't need to use 2.6 for IGP chipsets. See the 2.4 patches:
49 http://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314
50
51 > It's not that big of
52 > a deal, really. I can do it and just use it in PORTAGE_OVERLAY if it's
53 > not something that gentoo is interested in.
54
55 This isn't Gentoo, this is me. You're welcome to grab the 4.3.99.14-r1
56 ebuild from my overlay if you choose [1], but I don't consider it
57 appropriate for committing. Emerge it with `INPUT_DEVICES="synaptics"
58 emerge xfree` or preferably set INPUT_DEVICES in make.conf.
59
60 1. http://dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/overlay/

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