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Hi, |
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On Mon, 11 May 2015 04:26:01 +0000 Robin H. Johnson wrote: |
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> As past long-standing practice, @Gentoo.org system-level mail handling for |
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> incoming mail was officially to tag everything, and delete nothing. |
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> All deletion decisions were left to developers, via procmail/sieve/etc. |
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> This was a good early policy, as Gentoo was a much more reliable host than |
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> email providers a decade ago. This isn't true anymore, with the meteoric rise |
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> and success of gmail. |
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> A LOT of developers forward their mail now, to systems that refuse/temporarily |
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> blacklist the forwarding system because there is a lot of spam. Gmail is |
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> particularly strict in this regard, throttling mail to any recipient from the |
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> forwarding source. |
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Unconditional adjustment of free software infrastructure for very |
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questionable rules of proprietary product is a very bad idea. |
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> This is particularly acute, because more than 40% of the outgoing mail goes to |
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> Google (the 25% of destinations below is heavily represented because the very |
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> active devs send their mail to google). |
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> This unfortunate combination means that ~40% of mail sits in a backlog for a |
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> long time, and the active devs that use Gmail don't get their mail in a timely |
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> fashion. |
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Make this dropping optional: if devs are using gmail and really need |
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that filtering, they can opt-in. Left it opt-out for other devs. |
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Mail filtering is a minefield: too much spam is bad, loosing |
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even single important e-mail due to over restrictive filter is even |
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worse. |
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I've had enough with over restrictive mail servers, e.g. blocking |
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entire countries and ip ranges. I don't want to see Gentoo going |
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that way too. |
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> Unless there are any major objections, as of May 17th, Infra will start |
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> dropping mail that scores more than 10.0 points in Spamassassin. |
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> If that is successful, I propose to drop the score point by 1 point every month |
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> until it hits a score of 5.0 (so by mid-October, it will be dropping mail that |
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> scores more than 5.0). |
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Why so much focus on spamassassin? Why not to use (perhaps in |
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addition) more elegant technologies as the double grey listing? |
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Best regards, |
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Andrew Savchenko |
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