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From: "Paweł Hajdan
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: News item regarding c++98 vs c++11
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:32:52
Message-Id: 544B6E31.8090203@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: News item regarding c++98 vs c++11 by "Anthony G. Basile"
1 On 10/24/14 7:29 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
2 > So I don't have to keep email the entire item to the list, how about
3 > just adding it as follows:
4 >
5 > "Nor is c++11 code compiled with gcc-4.7 ABI-compatible with c++11
6 > compiled with 4.8, and vice versa. An example can be see in ref.
7 > [2]"
8 >
9 > Ref. [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=513386
10
11 I think this could still be clearer about the user/sysadmin perspective
12 more than a developer perspective, i.e. present this more like "both
13 gcc-4.7 and 4.8 installed with 4.7 being active" than "not
14 ABI-compatible with C++11 compiled with 4.8".
15
16 Here's my suggested draft:
17
18 -----%<----- CUT HERE -----%<-----
19 GCC 4.7 introduced the new experimental 2011 ISO C++ standard [1].
20
21 Users that wish to try enabling C++11 globally (e.g. using CXXFLAGS)
22 should exercise caution because it is not ABI-compatible with C++98.
23 Packages which are self-contained or do not link against any libraries
24 written in C++ are not affected. Note that some packages like
25 www-client/chromium and net-libs/webkit-gtk among others are already
26 using C++11 features.
27
28 Even having different versions of gcc installed simultaneously might
29 lead to problems, especially if the active version of gcc is older.
30 Please see [2] for example known bug with webkit-gtk. It is recommended
31 to set the latest installed version of gcc as active; some packages may
32 work when an older version is selected, but GCC upstream provides no
33 guarantees of C++11 ABI stability for code compiled with gcc-4.x and 4.y
34 for any x != y [3].
35
36 Ref.
37 [1] http://www.stroustrup.com/C++11FAQ.html
38 [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=513386
39 [3] https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=61758
40 -----%<----- CUT HERE -----%<-----
41
42 Paweł

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