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William Kenworthy [billk@×××××××××.au] wrote: |
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> It is also worth keeping in mind that expert/poweruser does not mandate |
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> always using command line, manual, prone to human error methods. GUI's |
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> can be very fast and efficient at certain tasks, and anything that can |
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> help produce a quick, clean and efficient install (which arguably gentoo |
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> isnt) can only be of benefit. |
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I disagree with this. "Quick" isn't necessarily the sign of a good |
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install. And considering that building the packages is the biggest |
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timeeater when installing gentoo a pretty installer isn't going to help |
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that. |
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"clean and efficient" is apparently a subjective term, as I think |
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gentoo already has that. It's sure a hell of a lot more efficent |
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for me to do a gentoo install than to boot from a custom disk to |
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setup my system, and then reboot to some other distro like mandrake |
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or RH and arm wrestle it into installing w/out breaking my setup |
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so that I can then go through and fix everything and remove spurious |
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dependencies and rebuild packages by hand. |
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And I'd rather deal with my "human error methods" than the lack |
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of flexibility and power inherent in a GUI install. And I'd rather |
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not have all that extra fluff on my install CD. |
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I say if that is what you want, there is a list of available distros |
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as long as my arm. Lets not trash this one just to have one more. |
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> The above is a bit of a ramble I admit, but having installed two gentoo |
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> systems (and about to start a third) as well as a number of RH and |
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> Mandrake, I can say it is a bit painful, particularly if you make a typo |
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> (e.g., get the grub boot partition wrong!) or switch screens so you |
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> cannot pageup and see what network card was detected etc). |
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Just as a note, one of the nice things about grub is that if you get |
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a partition wrong you can fix it right there from the grub boot screen. |
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That's hardly a big deal. |
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Also, you don't need to scroll up. That's what dmesg is for. While |
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I haven't checked myself, I'd be surprised if it wasn't on the boot |
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CD. Or at least /var/log/boot.msg. Myself, I generally know what's |
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in the system before I even begin installing it, so it's not been a |
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big issue for me. |