Gentoo Archives: gentoo-dev

From: Daniel Drake <dsd@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New ALSA maintainers
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:59:09
Message-Id: 460A9021.7090408@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] New ALSA maintainers by Ioannis Aslanidis
1 Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
2 > Well, to be honest, I am neither supporter nor detractor. I think that
3 > it's upstream that should go and fix themselves. It's them who have
4 > caused all this.
5
6 The bug you linked to is a natural effect of maintaining kernel drivers
7 outside of the kernel source tree.
8
9 It is not the fault of the alsa-driver maintainers (either Gentoo or
10 upstream people who push tarballs), since they don't control the
11 in-kernel API's.
12
13 It's not the kernels fault because the kernel does not claim to maintain
14 a stable internal API, and it actually readily claims the opposite. This
15 is not going to change. With reference to the problems an unstable
16 internal API causes, kernel people will give you one answer and one
17 answer only: get your code in the kernel. Problems like these simply do
18 not happen there.
19
20 So, in this particular case, if the alsa-driver portage package did not
21 exist, the bug in question (plus a whole series of others in the same
22 class) simply will not ever occur. This is a good thing.
23
24 > ALSA guys do not support in-kernel stuff.
25
26 ALSA guys being upstream alsa-project.org people? That's not correct,
27 they are the people who put the code in the kernel.
28
29 ALSA guys being downstream gentoo maintainers? That's true, since there
30 is a separate team who maintain the kernel.
31
32 > Kernel guys do not support alsa stuff.
33
34 Upstream kernel guys? No, they support alsa, actually most of the bugs
35 are handled by the alsa-project.org people who generally handle them
36 very well.
37
38 Downstream kernel guys (i.e. Gentoo kernel herd)? No, we support the
39 sound subsystem and the ALSA drivers just like all other subsystems and
40 drivers in the kernel.
41
42 Thanks,
43 Daniel
44 --
45 gentoo-dev@g.o mailing list

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] New ALSA maintainers Ioannis Aslanidis <aslanidis@×××××.com>