Re: [gentoo-dev] a #g-d first impression might represent process and metastructure

[Luca Barbato]

Jim Northrup wrote:

> so if it makes a difference, I approached a dev on #gentoo-dev, and met
> with condescending and belittling treatment when i asked for voice.  I
> will not be going into names or specifics.

Please specify it.

>
> undeterred, I have taken the reccomendations, and rtfm'd and established
> relations with developers nearly filing a bugzilla entry in the process
> to highlight the ridiculous level of bother my role as outsider seemed
> to present.
>
The best way to send us improvements and information is though
 bugzilla. That way it won't get lost because of other issues.

> the gentoo [meta]process deficiencies I can present for consideration are:
>
> 1)  There is nowhere specified on gentoo.org or gentoo maintained sites
> I've rtfm'd specifying any hint of conduct guidelines for being a
> developer interfacing with the outside world, representing the
> organization.  Common social ettiquette does not always reside with
> skilled techies...

Sorry, we are human and sometimes we just express our feelings. If on
irc your way to address people is the same you use on email, I guess
somebody could be less patient.

>
> 2)  There are gentoo.org references to #gentoo-dev, but the process of
> interfacing, mentoring, and recruiting are self-referential beginning
> with a bootstrap of being on the good side of an existing developer.  So
> for those of us who do not establish favorable dialogues by filing a
> bug, the door starts out closed.

One of the common way to became developer is receive an offer and being
sponsored and mentored by someone that already knows you. If you are
supposed to work with other people you should like them, isn't it?

lu

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Luca Barbato

Gentoo/linux Developer		Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader
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