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Mike Doty wrote: |
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> All- |
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> We're going to change the -dev mailing list from completely open to where only |
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> devs can post, but any dev could moderate a non-dev post. devs who moderate in |
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> bad posts will be subject to moderation themselves. in addition the |
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> gentoo-project list will be created to take over what -dev frequently becomes. |
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> there is no requirement to be on this new list. |
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> This will probably remove the need for -core(everything gets leaked out anyway) |
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> but that's a path to cross later. |
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> We're voting on this next council meeting so if you have input, now would be |
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> the time. |
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> --taco |
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A few points |
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1) As a point of fact, here am I, a non-dev user, responding to an email |
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on the dev list. Why? Because it's an issue that affects me as a user. |
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Users are part of the gentoo community (*cough* are the whole point |
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of the gentoo community *cough*) and at some point user-developer |
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interaction needs to have a "level playing field" forum. gentoo-dev, in |
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practice, has provided this. |
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_However it is spun, any moderating of non-devs is a disenfranchisement_ |
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2) "what -dev frequently becomes" - does this solve the problem? Let me |
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suggest that flamewars and other negative things can and will appear |
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amongst the copious amount of dry tinder that exists within the ranks of |
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those who have an @g.o email address. |
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_These proposed changes won't solve the "problem"_ |
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3) I read this list to keep my finger on the pulse of what's happening |
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in gentoo's heart. Crucial to this is the significant contribution of |
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some non-dev's. Included among these are former-developers, who while |
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they can't contribute in code or bug fixes etc, can in thought and |
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debate. I'll also name up Duncan who here and on -amd64 often provides |
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thought-provoking (although *cough* lengthy) posts, and even Mr. |
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McCreesh who provides posts that while sometimes caustic/flammable, are |
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also often precise and, in the most positive sense of the word, |
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idealistic. I wouldn't want these contributions to be delayed or |
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(perish the thought) vexatiously moderated. |
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_Contributions from non-devs are valuable_ |
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4) gentoo-dev is what it is. If you want a moderated list, create a |
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new, moderated list, where everyone member is subject to it and there |
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are clear understandings, from the get-go of who, by whom, and what will |
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be moderated. |
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_If you want to do this, do it properly_ |
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W. |
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