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Patrick Nagel posted on Fri, 09 Apr 2010 10:42:40 +0800 as excerpted: |
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> On 2010-04-08 19:51 UTC Ryan Hill wrote: |
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>> why are we setting up a user wiki when a very popular one already |
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>> exists? it seems like a complete duplication of effort. i'm not saying |
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>> don't do it, i'm just baffled why we would. |
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> Well, one reason could be, that the "unofficial" one lost its whole |
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> database once, and there were other multiple multi-day outages in the |
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> past. I expect an official Wiki to have a reasonable availability and |
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> not losing most of the content, breaking links all over the net for |
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> months. |
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In addition to that, various invitations have been and I expect will |
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continue to be made, to the guy running the current wiki. For whatever |
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reason(s), he doesn't seem particularly interested in running an official |
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Gentoo wiki. |
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In some ways I can't say I blame him. There's a lot of politics that goes |
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into anything Gentoo-official, and it's perfectly sane for someone to love |
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Gentoo but have no interest whatsoever in jumping thru all those political |
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hoops he'd ultimately have to jump thru, or being the political pawn the |
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wiki could likely be if it's as popular and useful as people hope. |
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Likewise, Gentoo's uncomfortable officially linking to something they |
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don't control in any way, shape, or form (except to the extent that we |
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could arguably pull his domain name for trademark reasons, if things got |
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ugly enough, tho that'd be incredibly bad for EVERYONE, so nobody wants to |
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go there!). |
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Regardless of how justified or not those reasons are, they exist, and are |
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a practical barrier to the current wiki and owner becoming the official |
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one. Yet the feeling is, and I as a Gentoo power user agree, we need a |
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wiki that we can officially point to, a place for documentation that |
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hasn't made it thru the formal Gentoo-doc and GuideXML process, and may in |
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fact never rise to that level, but is still valuable. |
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Also, there's the licensing issue. The current wiki has a non-commercial |
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clause for its content licensing that doesn't seem appropriate for an |
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official Gentoo wiki. And no one except the individual content |
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contributors can change that, so practically speaking, a new wiki without |
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that clause is needed. Individual contributors can copy their own content |
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over, of course, and other content can be rewritten, but the content |
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cannot be wholesale transferred, nor will it be. |
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Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. |
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"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- |
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and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman |