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> On Sep 14, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Fabian Groffen <grobian@g.o> wrote: |
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> On 15-09-2018 00:07:12 +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: |
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>>> Perhaps, if one persists on going this route, only do this for platforms |
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>>> that upstream supports, such that arches which will suffer from this |
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>>> (typically ppc, sparc, ...) don't have to be blocked by this. |
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>> Exactly in these cases the -Werror is useful as if upstream expects no |
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>> warnings then any warning should block installation and trigger bug |
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>> report. In Gentoo in many cases we use packages on platform has no |
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>> access to, our feedback to upstream is valuable. A great example is |
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>> gnutls in which we collectively (maintainer, unstable users, |
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>> architecture teams, stable users) found issues on architectures that |
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>> almost nobody other than Gentoo has access to. |
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> I don't believe Gentoo users are (supposed to be) an extension of |
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> upstreams. If upstreams insist on that, they should make their software |
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> non-free, adding a non-modification clause or something. In any case, |
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> it is not Gentoo's job IMHO. In the end it is Gentoo who needs to care |
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> for its users. I prefer we do that by giving them an option to become |
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> that extension of upstream, e.g. by USE=upstream-cflags, which Gentoo |
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> disables by default. |
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I am in complete agreement on this. Users should not be guinea pigs to help upstream unless they opt into it. |
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> As maintainer and/or enthusiastic user, like you wrote for gnutls, I |
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> would be more than happy to provide build logs/errors for all the arches |
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> I have access to. So like I wrote before, I think we should consider |
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> case-by-case basis to make it easy to do so. |
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> Fabian |
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> -- |
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> Fabian Groffen |
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> Gentoo on a different level |
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