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On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:11 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> wrote: |
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> Mike Gilbert posted on Wed, 24 Aug 2016 11:49:42 -0400 as excerpted: |
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>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 7:42 AM, Michael Orlitzky <mjo@g.o> |
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>>> On 08/24/2016 07:37 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: |
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>>>> I imagine _someone_ out there wants it, otherwise we wouldn't be |
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>>>> discussing it. |
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>>> The thread started out proposing it as a solution to a docker problem |
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>>> that, it turns out, isn't a problem. Why are we still trying to fixing |
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>>> something that isn't broken? Maybe I'm losing it, but nowhere in the |
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>>> whole thread has anyone given a single reason why this might be useful. |
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>> You're right that the orignal purpose of the change has been debunked. |
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>> So, starting over: one real benefit would be cross-compatibility with |
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>> systemd. It's one less thing people would need to reconfigure when |
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>> migrating to/from openrc. |
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>> And before anyone starts an argument about it, I don't care what your |
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>> opinion on systemd is. I'm just throwing this out there as an actual |
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>> benefit of adding support for /etc/hostname to openrc. |
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> Are you sure about systemd? |
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Yes, I am certain that systemd uses this file to set the system |
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hostname. It does *not* read /etc/conf.d/hostname, which is the main |
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point here. |
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> Because I'm on systemd here, working fine as far as can be observed, and |
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> I don't have /etc/hostname. |
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> [after googling and checking manpages] |
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> Seems it's (semi-?)optional. The hostnamectl command can be used to set |
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> the hostname (pretty/static/transient/or-combination-of) among other |
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> things, and /etc/hostname presumably controls the static name. |
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> But I have the (reported as transient) name set by kconfig option, and |
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> apparently that's all that's needed on my setup, anyway. |
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Nobody actually does this, except you and a few other Gentoo people. |
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Most kernels in the wild are compiled by distro maintainers, who have |
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no idea what you want to call your computer. |
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Setting the hostname via a text file in /etc is a lot simpler than |
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re-configuring a kernel. |
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> So it seems systemd works just fine without /etc/hostname, certainly so |
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> if it's set elsewhere, like say via kconfig option. |
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I never said /etc/hostname was necessary for operation of systemd. |
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It *is* the way that normal people set their hostname for a system |
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that doesn't get configured via DHCP or some dynamic method. |