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From: Carlos Silva <r3pek@×××××.org>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:06:16
Message-Id: CA+ZvHYF68Bi6H6y5uxz64rL8-V9DeGTJgHUE-LsNU0ySSLP8mA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC by "Rick \\\"Zero_Chaos\\\" Farina"
1 How about someone decide which is the best version and keep it integrated
2 in OpenRC? There's no best version? diff the two of them and merge what
3 matters. I mean, how many distros do you know that have two sets of init
4 scripts *just* to configure networking? I know Gentoo is about choice, but
5 this feels a little too much choice. What will I choose next? Someone can
6 decide that keymap needs a refactor and just fork it, of maybe hostname,
7 or <insert_some_stupid_but_*needed*_init_script_here>.
8
9 Just my 2 cents...
10
11
12 On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina <
13 zerochaos@g.o> wrote:
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18 > On 04/24/2013 07:17 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
19 > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 06:34:46PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
20 > >> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 02:16:51PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote
21 > >>
22 > >>> Considering our default configuration ships sshd (an argument we don't
23 > >>> need to rehash here), it seems a bit silly to not ship networking
24 > >>> support by default. I'd rather not do it as part of the system set,
25 > >>> though that would be consistent with what we're doing with ssh, and it
26 > >>> is still override-able.
27 > >> To handle the various possible cases, maybe we need a "virtual/net" as
28 > >> part of the system set, which can be satisfied by either oldnet or
29 > >> newnet or whatever. The install ISO will have a basic working network
30 > >> stack (IPV4+IPV6). After the initial install, the admin can do
31 > >> whatever. Maybe even invoke package.provided.
32 > >
33 > > This would actually be cleaner than a bogus dependency in OpenRC.
34 > > I would probably call it virtual/network-manager though.
35 > >
36 > You can't call it virtual/network-manager, that calls to mind, you know,
37 > net-misc/networkmanager. That's just too confusing imho. I wouldn't
38 > object to virtual/net, or pretty much anything else that isn't
39 > confusing. The net scripts are not a network manager, networkmanager,
40 > wicd, even wpa_supplicant would be things I would consider to be network
41 > managers.
42 >
43 > - -Zero
44 >
45 > > Are there any issues with putting together a virtual like this and
46 > > adding it to @system?
47 > >
48 > > Thanks,
49 > >
50 > > William
51 > >
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