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On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 02:47 -0600, Steev Klimaszewski wrote: |
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> OR, since I'm the maintainer, I decide that I'm willing to deal with |
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> both, instead of you telling me that I need to pick one or the other. |
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> Upstream says both are supported and viable, and I'm willing to deal |
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> with the headaches. Just because you're unwilling doesn't mean others |
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> aren't. kthx. |
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And this is an example of why everyone on the gnome team doesn't like |
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the "gtk3" flag. Because well-meaning developers will be looking at |
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their one corner of the portage tree, deciding that they are going to |
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handle the choice of gtk version without slotting, and not consider the |
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effect on the distro as a whole. |
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You know what's going to happen now, after the QA team decision? |
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First of all, lots of developers will start renaming "gtk" to "gtk3" in |
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their ebuilds' IUSE. |
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Which means "gtk gtk3" will soon have to be added to USE in |
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targets/desktop/gnome/make.defaults (currently, the gnome profile |
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globally only has USE="gtk" because the "gtk3" flag is evil). |
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And users of non-gnome profiles who use gnome applications will of |
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course manually add "gtk gtk3" to USE in their local make.conf. |
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Unfortunately, at the same time, lots of other developers are going to |
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start adding support for building against gtk2 XOR gtk3. Because of |
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course "Gentoo is about choice", and the more choices, the merrier, and |
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the gtk3 flag has been declared as supported by the QA team. And that |
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means lots of REQUIRED_USE="^^ ( gtk gtk3 )". |
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For the gnome team this results in a headache: maintaining a big list of |
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"-gtk" / "-gtk3" entries in targets/desktop/gnome/package.use so that |
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gnome users get a sensible choice and don't need to edit /etc/portage/* |
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just to emerge widely used desktop tools. |
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But for non-gnome users who manually added USE=gtk3 to make.conf, this |
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means regular emerge conflicts after sync, forcing them to *guess* |
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whether "-gtk" or "-gtk3" in pacakge.use is the better choice. Maybe |
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with portage auto-suggesting the wrong solution just to add to the |
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wonderful user experience :/ |
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