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From: Jakub Moc <jakub@g.o>
To: Ciaran McCreesh <gentoo-dev@l.g.o>
Subject: Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 14:06:52
Message-Id: 1451718903.20051101143247@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting by Ciaran McCreesh
1 1.11.2005, 13:48:06, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
2
3 > | The messages should be displayed when I'm about to upgrade an ebuild
4 > | which has an upgrade note associated with the new version. Sending
5 > | mail via cron might be a nice optional feature for those who want to
6 > | use it.
7
8 > Not really a good idea, a) because news items aren't tied directly to
9 > ebuilds, and b) because people like advance warning of "when you
10 > upgrade Apache, all hell will break loose!" rather than having it
11 > sprung on them suddenly when they're trying to do a quick update.
12 > Getting the news item in advance allows for planning.
13
14 What do you mean "they aren't tied to ebuilds"? I don't really understand what
15 this feature should do then, it seems. Once again, what's wrong with reusing
16 emerge --changelog mechanism for displaying this kind of information?
17
18 I'm not particularly happy with idea of emerge as a newsreader really, IMHO we
19 should display relevant, vital upgrading information *when relevant*, not to
20 inform users about upgrades that they are not interested in in the least.
21 Example: Don't bother me with mysql-4.1 upgrade instructions, I don't plan to
22 upgrade to that version and did put it into package.mask. Another example:
23 Don't bother me with upgrade instructions for ~arch ebuilds, I'm running
24 stable. I want to read them when I decide to upgrade, put them into
25 package.keywords and run emerge -uav someebuild/world or when it goes stable.
26
27 And please, keep the thing simple so that I can be done in reasonable amount of
28 time and does not follow the destiny of einfo/ewarn logging (3 years and
29 counting).
30
31
32 --
33 Best regards,
34
35 Jakub Moc
36 mailto:jakub@g.o
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39
40 ... still no signature ;)

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