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On Thursday 26 January 2006 17:17, MIkey wrote: |
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> Paul de Vrieze wrote: |
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> > The "way around this" would be to change bootstrap.sh back to building a |
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> > minimal version of the current version that is then used to compile the |
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> > rest of the system, including the C library and gcc itself. Between this |
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> > however the original bootstrap compiler could be removed. |
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> > |
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> > This however goes deep into bootstrapping a linux system. A complicated |
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> > matter that is not for the weak of heart. |
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> The bootstrap.sh script, with minor bugfixes and perhaps a pause after the |
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> gcc build, is a perfectly working method of bootstrapping gentoo. |
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> Another small fact has been glossed over. The stage3 method first upgrades |
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> gcc-3.3.5 to gcc-3.3.6, then gcc-3.4.4. An incredible waste of time that |
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> easily avoided by installing from a stage1 instead of a stage3. Yes, you |
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> could run bootstrap.sh on a stage3 tarball, but that is not what the |
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> documentation tells the users to do. |
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Running a bootstrap when not bootstrapping is also completely unsupported and |
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may give you very strange results. Doing it with less compilation is |
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possible, but requires some portage overriding with --nodeps. The |
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documentation is mainly supposed to work always, not be the most efficient |
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way to do things. |
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> As a process to get gentoo installed the stage3 method sucks, period. |
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> There is absolutely no advantage to it over a stage1 whatsoever. At |
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> certain times when the stage3 tarball was only released one week previous |
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> and there have been no major upgrades, you might save time. That is a very |
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> limited window of advantage. Installing from stage1 narrows down what |
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> problems can happen considerably and would be much easier to support in the |
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> long run. |
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First of all, the object to be as fast as possible has been dropped as main |
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gentoo goal years ago. Stage 3 is indeed based on an old base. It however |
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starts you with a working system in which all assumptions made by ebuilds |
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about the system are true. This means one should expect a stage 3 to have no |
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problems emerging any package. This is not true for a stage 1 or stage 2. |
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Paul |
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Paul de Vrieze |
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Gentoo Developer |
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Mail: pauldv@g.o |
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Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net |
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