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On 15/10/15 06:57 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Mike Frysinger |
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> <vapier@g.o> wrote: |
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>> iputils is currently in @system for everyone. by default, it |
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>> only installs `ping`. do we feel strongly enough about this to |
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>> require all systems include it ? or should this wait for the |
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>> long idea of releasing stage4's instead of stage3's ? |
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> IMO this should certainly be installed by default, but it should |
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> also not be a part of the @system set unless portage depends on |
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> it or something like that. |
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> Thus this should probably wait until we start releasing stage4s. |
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So as mentioned already, there's a ping functionality provided by |
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busybox (and busybox won't be dropped from @system any time soon, |
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right?). So long as people know that works (which may require |
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documentation updates), the removal of iputils will likely have very |
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little impact. |
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Secondly, iamben and I were discussing that the addition of a |
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section to the Handbook, "Optional: Highly Recommended Packages and |
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Tools" to, say, the bottom of the 'Installing system tools' chapter. |
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A table containing package name and a quick description of its |
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importance should do. |
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Thirdly, is there any method that will alert users that iputils is |
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going to be depcleaned after it's dropped from @system ?? I know we |
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recommend people run it with --pretend, but if people aren't looking |
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for packages being dropped from @system I can see this falling |
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through the cracks a lot... |
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