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On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 20:28 +0000, Sergei Trofimovich wrote: |
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> On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 17:24:08 +0100 |
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> David Seifert <soap@g.o> wrote: |
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> > On Sun, 2019-11-24 at 20:35 +0000, Sergei Trofimovich wrote: |
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> > > On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 17:19:36 +0100 |
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> > > Ulrich Mueller <ulm@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > |
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> > > > > > > > > On Sun, 24 Nov 2019, Sergei Trofimovich wrote: |
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> > > > > I interpreted 'reserved' as 'free to use' on |
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> > > > > |
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> > > > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Quality_Assurance/UID_GID_Assignment |
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> > > > > Can you tweak it to someting other than 'reserved' so it would be |
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> > > > > clear? |
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> > > > |
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> > > > That's what the "Notes" column was intended for. |
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> > > > |
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> > > > > I'll use 60001 .. 60999 / 61001 .. 61999. Is it free though? |
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> > > > > '60001..65533' claims to also be 'reserved' as well. |
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> > > > |
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> > > > Debian is also using the range above 60000 for allocations that |
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> > > > won't |
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> > > > fit into the low range. Theoretically, there is some overlap with |
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> > > > systemd dynamic users (61184..65519), but IIUC assigning other UIDs |
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> > > > in |
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> > > > that range isn't a problem, as long as there are enough free IDs |
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> > > > left. |
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> > > > |
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> > > > Another question, the above are about 2000 users and 2000 groups. |
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> > > > Does that imply that we will eventually end up with 4000 packages |
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> > > > in acct-{user,group}? |
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> > > |
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> > > Should be 2000 users, 2 groups. Worst case it's 2002 packages, yes. |
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> > > |
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> > For a package manager that likely only 3 Gentoo users in the world use? |
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> I'll avoid debating you scientific method of deriving that number. |
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> What is your threshold? 10 users? 1000 users? 100000 users? |
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Could you provide some numbers on performance impact of having that many |
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users? In particular on systems using plain text passwd database. |
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> > I don't consider that particularly helpful, and am very much inclined |
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> > to oppose that. |
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> I'm fine with current use of user.eclass if QA grants nix and guix an |
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> exception to use user.eclass indefinitely instead of GLEP-81 layout. |
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I would rather be inclined to give nix and guix a special privilege of |
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being moved to an overlay. It seems so far that they are unjustly |
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trying to assume growing number of privileges they have no claim for, |
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and trying to run their own non-Gentoo shop inside Gentoo for no good |
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reason. |
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Best regards, |
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Michał Górny |
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