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On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 03:27:12PM +0200, Charles Nérot wrote: |
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> Lot of thing are done for fighting spam : dnssec, dane, spf, dkim, |
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> dmarc... All of this for "trusting real sender". |
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> Some of them break smtp built in fonctionnality : spf break forwarding [1]. |
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DANE does nothing for spam, there are spammers that pass DNSSEC, DANE, DKIM, |
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SPF. DMARC breaks mailing lists badly for domains with reject as their policy [1]. |
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> If you beleive in spf (gentoo.org have an spf dns entry) , two ways need |
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> to be looked at : |
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> - fixing real sender with SRS [1]. |
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SRS was NEVER approved to an RFC. Does Google actual handle it properly without |
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violating DMARC? |
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> - stop forwarding mail and do POP (gmail can do it) or IMAP from your |
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> favorite (web)mail client. |
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See prior in the thread, that this is NOT feasible for many users. |
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> Dmarc dns entry with report activated can help you understand why google |
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> blacklist you. |
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We are NOT blacklisted. We are throttled, and there is a major |
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difference there. |
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A62D234090F 4425 Mon May 11 17:19:24 bugzilla-daemon@g.o |
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(host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2607:f8b0:400e:c02::1a] said: 421-4.7.0 |
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[2001:470:ea4a:1:214:c2ff:fe64:b2d3 15] Our system has detected 421-4.7.0 |
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an unusual rate of unsolicited mail originating from your IP address. 421-4.7.0 |
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To protect our users from spam, mail sent from your IP address has 421-4.7.0 |
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been temporarily rate limited. Please visit 421-4.7.0 |
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http://www.google.com/mail/help/bulk_mail.html to review our Bulk 421 4.7.0 |
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Email Senders Guidelines. k5si11246054pdl.3 - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA |
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command)) |
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${CENSORED}@gmail.com |
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[1] I previously wrote about how this breaks lists: |
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http://robbat2.dreamwidth.org/238457.html |
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Robin Hugh Johnson |
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Gentoo Linux: Developer, Infrastructure Lead |
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E-Mail : robbat2@g.o |
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