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>>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Greg KH wrote: |
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>> Ulrich Mueller (ulm) wrote this on the 16th: |
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>> > Look into the WHENCE file and be horrified. Taking just the first ten |
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>> > items (of a total 114): |
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>> > Unknown license (3 times) |
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> Which ones specifically? |
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Driver: snd-korg1212 -- Korg 1212 IO audio device |
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Driver: kaweth -- USB KLSI KL5USB101-based Ethernet device |
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Driver: dvb-ttusb-budget -- Technotrend/Hauppauge Nova-USB devices |
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>> > GPL, but without source (3 times) |
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> Really? Which? |
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Driver: ambassador -- Madge Ambassador (Collage PCI 155 Server) ATM NIC. |
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Driver: snd-maestro3 -- ESS Allegro Maestro3 audio device |
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Driver: qla1280 - Qlogic QLA 1240/1x80/1x160 SCSI support |
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>> > "All rights reserved" |
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> That's not an issue, unless it is alone, is there something else in the |
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> license as well? |
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Driver: snd-ymfpci -- Yamaha YMF724/740/744/754 audio devices |
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According to WHENCE, it is: |
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"Copyright (c) 1997-1999 Yamaha Corporation. All Rights Reserved." |
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Nothing else. |
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>> > BSD, without source |
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> There's no problem with that. |
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Driver: advansys - AdvanSys SCSI |
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Right, and it's the only one out of the first ten that we're allowed |
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to redistribute. |
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>> > Right for redistribution not granted |
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> Huh? Which? |
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Driver: smctr -- SMC ISA/MCA Token Ring adapter |
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>> > "Permission is hereby granted for the distribution [...] as part of |
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>> > a Linux or other Open Source operating system kernel" |
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> What is wrong with that? We happen to be distributing a Linux operating |
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> system. |
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Driver: keyspan -- USB Keyspan USA-xxx serial device |
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We distribute it in a separate package. And it doesn't say "part of |
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an OS" but explicitly "part of a kernel". |
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>> > With one exception, we are not even allowed to redistribute these. |
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> I don't understand, please explain all of these in detail so that we can |
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> fix this upstream. |
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>> This is what we've been discussing about. This is not really about |
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>> Gentoo by itself, but the ability to distribute the sources at all, be |
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>> it from us or somebody else. |
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> I understand, and as an upstream developer, I want to see that fixed |
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> because all distros need to be able to distribute these files for the |
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> kernel to work properly. |
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> Oh, and other distros, with lots of lawyers, are distributing these |
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> firmware images as a single package, so this needs to be resolved either |
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> by realizing that our interpretation is incorrect, or that everyone is |
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> wrong here. |
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Can you show me a distro that distributes above-mentioned files? |
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Debian, for example, doesn't distribute them (AFAICS). |
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Ulrich |
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