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On 12/17/2021 11:56, Andrew Savchenko wrote: |
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> On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 14:00:48 +0100 Andreas Sturmlechner wrote: |
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>> On Montag, 20. Februar 2017 22:47:17 CET Andreas K. Huettel wrote: |
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>>> Hey all, |
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>>> |
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>>> 1) Putting printer drivers into "net-print" is silly. |
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>>> |
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>>> Something that converts format a to device-specific format b has absolutely |
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>>> nothing to do with network. |
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>>> So, a new category "sys-print", emphasizing that it's hardware drivers, (or |
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>>> "cups-drv"?) (or maybe "media-print"?) might make sense. |
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>>> |
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>>> 2) After introducing that, however, "net-print" becomes nearly empty. |
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>>> |
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>>> On a quick glance, the only *network*-specific packages in there are cups |
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>>> and lprng. Maybe one or two more which I dont recognize. |
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>>> |
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>>> So move cups and lprng to "net-misc" and drop "net-print"? |
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>>> Or move them to new "sys-print" as well? |
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>>> |
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>>> What do you think? |
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>>> |
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>>> Cheers, |
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>>> Andreas |
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>> |
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>> I would like to resume this discussion on the occasion of a new [shameless |
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>> plug] package PAPPL that is to be packaged, see also [1], from the point |
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>> before discussion went off on an X-Y categories tangent. |
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>> Here's a list of suggestions made for a new category so far, ordered from |
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>> (seemingly) best- to least-liked: |
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>> media-print |
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>> sys-print |
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>> app-print(ing) |
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> IMHO sys-print is the best variant, since printing often requires |
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> system privileges to set it up or change lots of settings. |
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> Best regards, |
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> Andrew Savchenko |
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Maybe consider three new top-level categories?: |
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- print-drivers |
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- print-filters |
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- print-misc |
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Breaking out what's in the current net-print: |
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print-drivers/ |
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brlaser |
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cndrvcups-common-lb |
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cndrvcups-lb |
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cnrdrvcups-lb |
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cups-windows |
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dymo-cups-drivers |
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epson-inkjet-printer-escpr |
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foo2zjs |
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gutenprint |
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hplip |
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hplip-plugin |
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kyocera-1x2x-mfp-driver |
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pnm2ppa |
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splix |
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print-filters/ |
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apsfilter |
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c2esp |
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cnijfilter2 |
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cups-filters |
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kyocera-mita-ppds |
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lexmark-upd-ppd |
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foomatic-db |
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foomatic-db-engine |
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foomatic-db-ppds |
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print-misc/ |
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cups |
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cups-bjnp |
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cups-pdf |
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cups-pk-helper |
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fax4cups |
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gtklp |
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ink |
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libinklevel |
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mtink |
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npadmin |
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poster |
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sshlpr |
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I haven't looked at any of the other existing categories and only sorted out |
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net-print packages into these new proposed categories, but I think *most* |
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printing stuff is going to fall into one of those three type of buckets. A |
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fourth category, say print-scanning, may be able to be created specific to |
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scanning stuff, since that kinda has its own side-ecosystem. If we |
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accumulate enough printing-related libraries, I guess print-libs may also |
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come into being (right now, I put libinklevel under print-misc since it's |
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the only lib* standout). |
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Idea behind a new top-level print-* group of categories is that printing is |
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a fairly large ecosystem, and lumping it all into something like media-print |
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or sys-print seems to miss the mark a bit. media-* seems more aligned to |
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things like sound, video, and graphics (the digital kind), and less about |
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print media. sys-print implies the system-level connections that a printer |
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has, and would be a good fit for all of the printer driver packages, but not |
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as good a fit for things like net-print/poster. |
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Also, the HOMEPAGE for foo2zjs is dead and up for sale. That needs to be |
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changed to: |
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https://github.com/koenkooi/foo2zjs |
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