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On 12/17/12 08:10, Michael Orlitzky wrote: |
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> On 12/16/12 14:04, Markos Chandras wrote: |
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>> On 16 December 2012 16:57, Michael Orlitzky <michael@××××××××.com> wrote: |
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>>> Inspired by the number of packages being unmaintained -- why not use |
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>>> some of that bug bounty money to fix up the recruitment documentation |
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>> Recruitment documentatiob? What does that mean? |
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>>> People still think of Gentoo as a ricer distro that's broken all |
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>>> the time, when in reality, it's one of the most stable. |
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>> Well that's not entirely true but that's a different issue |
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> The first part is definitely true. The stable part is also true in my |
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> experience, all things considered. For an example, take the last "what's |
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> your favorite distro" post on Reddit (not exactly a representative |
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> sample, I know): |
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> http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/14tpnt/of_all_the_distros_youve_ever_used_what_do_you/ |
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> Top rated comment: |
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> "Tie between Arch and Gentoo. These are my "messing around" distros. |
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> Fun to install and tweak on older machines, but I don't know enough |
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> about them to use them full time. Plus, Gentoo breaks. A lot. Arch |
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> breaks much more often than Debian for me but much less than Gentoo." |
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> Further down: |
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> "Gentoo is not stable. Stop saying that." |
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> My experience mirrors Michael Mol's. Perception is bad. Reality not so much. |
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And then you look what people do to get to that conclusion ... |
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"I unmasked gcc-4.8, migrated back to glibc-2.5 so I could build |
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binaries for CentOS 5, and started from a sabayon install because it's |
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easier. My CFLAGS include make-faster things like -ffast-math and -O8" |
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Plus people don't look at warnings unless they are interactive prompts |
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that ask them so answer a question about the warning. So yeah, if you |
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hit things with a hammer they break. And we make it easy for people to |
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do that :) |
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On the other hand I could tell you about "Enterprise Distros" that patch |
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their gcc so badly that it is confused about its version, and many other |
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funny things. |
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Everything breaks at some point, I started using Gentoo because I was |
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able to fix that breakage, thus enabling me to use my computer instead |
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of just ranting about it. Internally, I think, we're doing ok, now we |
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just need to make our PR effective again (which has been an ongoing |
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project for half a decade ...) |
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