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From: Joshua Saddler <nightmorph@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc: use iproute2 for all network handling in linux
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 06:26:05
Message-Id: 20111111222509.5ee8107a@angelstorm
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc: use iproute2 for all network handling in linux by William Hubbs
1 On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:53:44 -0600
2 William Hubbs <williamh@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > Hi all,
5 >
6 > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=389437
7 >
8 > has prompted a discussion of whether or not we should use ifconfig
9 > in openrc to configure networking on linux systems.
10 >
11 > I'm not asking that we consider removing net-tools from systems,
12 > because there are tools there that we still need. In my view
13 > though, two of these tools (ifconfig and route), have been
14 > surpassed in functionality by iproute2's ip tool. So, what I am
15 > considering doing is dropping the ifconfig module from openrc and
16 > using iproute2 for all network configuration on linux systems.
17 >
18 > The other side of the discussion seems to be that openrc needs to
19 > work on minimal installations, so we need to continue supporting
20 > using ifconfig.
21 >
22 > I realize there would be a trade-off if I stop supporting linux's
23 > ifconfig and route in openrc, but how much of a trade-off? Would the
24 > benefits of iproute2 outweigh the down side of not supporting
25 > ifconfig and route on linux?
26 >
27 > What does everyone think?
28 >
29 > William
30 >
31
32 i'm in favor of whatever doesn't force me and our users to install
33 Yet Another Tool besides what's in the system set, and whatever
34 doesn't result in a LOT of work for the GDP to update all of our
35 documentation. there are dozens of places in all the docs that refer
36 to ifconfig and the other utilities installed with
37 sys-apps/net-tools.
38
39 i'd really prefer it if i didn't have to learn a whole new set of
40 tools & syntax, and then had to rewrite all of our docs for them.
41 ifconfig and net-tools work as-is; i've yet to see a compelling case
42 for installing & learning iproute.
43
44 if net-tools isn't being dropped from the system set, don't force our
45 users to install redundant utilities.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc: use iproute2 for all network handling in linux "Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn" <chithanh@g.o>