[gentoo-dev] Re: more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11

[Duncan]

Michał Górny posted on Sat, 22 Nov 2014 00:05:09 +0100 as excerpted:

> Dnia 2014-11-20, o godz. 08:06:05 "Anthony G. Basile"
> <blueness@g.o> napisał(a):
>
>> On 11/20/14 04:37, Michał Górny wrote:
>> > Dnia 2014-11-19, o godz. 17:41:53 Diego Elio Pettenò
>> > <flameeyes@×××××××××.eu> napisał(a):
>> >
>> >> On 31 October 2014 09:28, Diego Elio Pettenò
>> >> <flameeyes@×××××××××.eu> wrote:
>> >>> So who wants to pick up the pieces now? Because I'm almost pissed
>> >>> off enough to turn down the tinderbox and give a big FU to Gentoo
>> >>> already.
>> >>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=527608
>> >> More! https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529788
>> >>
>> >> Again, is somebody going to stand up and do something or can I shut
>> >> down my tinderbox and spend my free time playing Baldur's Gate?
>> > Comrel, please either do something about vapier or reassign all his
>> > packages (and team positions) to a volunteering proxy developer who
>> > will handle human relations for him.
>> >
>> >
>> Chill dude.
>
> You should probably know that telling someone angry to 'chill dude' only
> increases the anger. On the other hand, telling that to someone who's
> not angry is meaningless. And I'm just frustrated because I have a lot
> of work on Gentoo.
>
> The obvious fact is that Gentoo is undermanned. The non-obvious part is
> that many developers are retiring or decreasing their activity because
> of the growing frustration. One of the major sources of frustration is
> Mike's behavior -- lack of respect for Council and other authorities,
> complete ignorance of rules and good taste, thoughtless committing
> without proper reviews of warnings, writing poor quality code because
> 'why do you care'...

While it pains me to say this, unfortunately it looks like we have 
another "toxic person" situation to deal with, with all the implications 
that come with it.  Maybe it's time to deal with it.  Best wishes to 
those on the council ATM, however they go.  It's not an easy job in the 
best circumstances and unfortunately, we're not talking the best 
circumstances ATM.  However it resolves, they're going to need wisdom and 
guts and social skills.  We can all hope/pray to $DEITY/$FATES/$HIGHER-
POWERS they have what's required, because the bandages applied to date 
are clearly no longer working.

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