Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-9999 (and upcoming 217) no longer has userspace firmware loader (will need Linux 3.7 for firmware's to be loaded)

[Anthony G. Basile]

On 08/31/14 23:30, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> On 01/09/14 03:37, Patrick Lauer wrote:
>> On Sunday 31 August 2014 17:13:49 Samuli Suominen wrote:
>>> Trying to raise awareness:
>>>
>>> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=be2ea723b1d023b3d385d
>>> 3b791ee4607cbfb20ca
>>>
>> What are the effects for end-users?
> Nothing if they follow the CONFIG_CHECK that tells them to set
> CONFIG_FW_LOADER_USER_HELPER=n.
> And it's it's left to =y or they don't upgrade kernel _at least_ to 3.7,
> i.e. not paying attention, then...
>
>> Will things just quietly fail hard (e.g. radeon driver -> no firmware -> screen
>> corrupted/black)?
> ...this.
>
>>
>>> http://sources.gentoo.org/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/sys-fs/udev/udev-9999.ebuild
>>> ?r1=1.317&r2=1.318
>>> http://sources.gentoo.org/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/sys-fs/udev/udev-9999.ebuil
>>> d?r1=1.318&r2=1.319
>>>
>>> I will release a GLEP 42 news item *at the same time* =sys-fs/udev-217
>>> is released into ~arch, so nobody
>>> will get caught off guard
>>>
>>> Consider this message a prenotice, now you know it's gone
>> ... one more win for eudev. Sigh.
>>
> They are planning in dropping the userspace loader as well, it's
> redudant afterall.
>
> Most firmware are kernel loadable by >= 3.7
> Everything is kernel loadable (3.7 and few later versions had some
> exceptions for more rare drivers) in latest
>

We are in the middle of assessing whether we should drop this code or 
not for backwards compatibility.

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