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From: Joshua Kinard <kumba@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Dealing with global /usr/bin/libtool use vs CC/CXX etc.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 22:49:55
Message-Id: fca89261-4205-6d7d-b374-83a9f8f908be@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Dealing with global /usr/bin/libtool use vs CC/CXX etc. by "Michał Górny"
1 On 1/10/2021 09:47, Michał Górny wrote:
2 > On Sun, 2021-01-10 at 14:54 +0100, Fabian Groffen wrote:
3 >> On 10-01-2021 14:34:13 +0100, Michał Górny wrote:
4 >>> The vast majority of libtool-based programs use configure script to
5 >>> generate libtool. However, a few non-autoconf packages also use libtool
6 >>> by calling system-installed /usr/bin/libtool. The problem is that this
7 >>> libtool hardcodes the values of CC/CXX at its' build time, so unless it
8 >>> is rebuilt frequently, packages end up using the stale values.
9 >>> The problem is known since 2005 [1] and hasn't been resolved yet.
10 >>>
11 >>> I can think of two ways of solving it:
12 >>>
13 >>> 1. We could patch system-installed libtool to respect environment
14 >>> variables such as CC, CXX, etc. This will probably require carrying
15 >>> a (possibly non-trivial) patch forever. On the bright side, libtool is
16 >>> not exactly a package seeing frequent releases. I mean, the current
17 >>> version is from 2015.
18 >>>
19 >>> 2. We could regenerate libtool and force local instance of libtool
20 >>> in the packages needing it. The main advantage of this is that it's
21 >>> a no-brainer. I could make a quick eclass that does configure a local
22 >>> instance and prepends it into PATH.
23 >>>
24 >>> WDYT?
25 >>
26 >> I would prefer option 2, also because on some systems usr/bin/libtool is
27 >> some entirely different tool than GNU libtool.
28 >>
29 >> I remember this being much more of a problem ~15 years ago, so I wonder
30 >> do we have an easy way of crafting a list of affected packages, such
31 >> that we can see how big the problem actually is nowadays? I'm thinking
32 >> perhaps tinderbox logs or something can reveal /usr/bin/libtool usage
33 >> somehow.
34 >
35 > I think it might be possible to do something akin USE=-native-symlinks
36 > that makes libtool not install /usr/bin/libtool, and see what breaks.
37 > However, I'm not sure if this executable isn't required for some obscure
38 > reason anyway.
39
40 Second option seems better, and basically just enforces what's been a
41 standard habit anyways (I at least try to manually rebuild libtool when
42 changing gcc major versions, but not so much for minor versions).
43
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45 Joshua Kinard
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