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On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Alexandre Rostovtsev |
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<tetromino@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Wed, 2014-03-12 at 14:24 +0100, Peter Stuge wrote: |
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>> Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: |
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>> > Making udev dependency always on is a deliberate choice here |
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>> I thought Gentoo was about users having choice? Sad face. |
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> Gentoo is usually about the maintainer's choice ;) |
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> So in the end it's up to Pacho: |
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> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504324 |
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Honestly, of all the suggestions in this thread having the use-enable |
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config setting and just outputting a warning when udev isn't enabled |
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seems like the best solution. |
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Sure, it is up to the maintainer, but in general we should try to |
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support config options like this. If we only wanted packages that |
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"just work" with no risk of breakage we'd be running debian. USE |
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flags are a big point of what we're about. |
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Anybody setting USE=-udev system-wide needs to appreciate that stuff |
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like usb/bluetooth/etc which is runtime auto-configuring is fairly |
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likely to not work. The profile defaults already seem reasonable, so |
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it shouldn't be necessary to force it off for a typical user - base |
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users will tend to get udev only if they install something like bluez, |
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which is what 95% of users will want. For those who want to override |
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the defaults we should give them the option to shoot themselves in |
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both feet and the head as well if they are eager. |
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Users who really want the "Debian-like" experience should just avoid |
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setting use flags at all and pick a profile. USE defaults and |
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profiles really eliminate the "need" to tweak that stuff, and emerge |
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can auto-set package settings if required for a dependency. |
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Rich |
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