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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:05:35
Message-Id: 20120623125942.4a743f69@googlemail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5 by Peter Stuge
1 On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 13:52:24 +0200
2 Peter Stuge <peter@×××××.se> wrote:
3 > Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
4 > > bring this to the point where we can say something other than
5 > > "huh?".
6 >
7 > You can accelerate by making one guess about each thing on the list
8 > and asking for confirmation of your guess.
9 >
10 > It sounds silly, but I realized that this actually happens all the
11 > time offline - at least to me. I interpret, ask if I got it right,
12 > then move on. It's pretty efficient, but requires both sender and
13 > receiver wanting successful transmission.
14
15 The issue is not that we don't understand the list. The issue is that
16 we don't understand the problem (beyond superficially), how the
17 proposed solution works from an ebuild perspective, whether the
18 solution solves the problem, or how it all fits together. Most of the
19 stuff on the list is irrelevant from a design perspective. It's not
20 that the list is hard to understand, it's that understanding the
21 problem and solution requires completely different material.
22
23 To take one example, figuring out exactly which variables get mangled
24 is an unimportant detail at this stage (and likely we'll want to
25 offload it to profiles, not hard-code it in PMS) and not a central part
26 of the proposal.
27
28 What we need is a GLEP, describing it in high level terms with a
29 discussion upon how it impacts users and ebuild developers, and a PMS
30 patch, highlighting what's to be changed in specific technical terms.
31
32 --
33 Ciaran McCreesh

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