Re: [gentoo-dev] The Gentoo Developer Handbook - Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

[Deedra Waters]

I did not dismiss your concerns, I just wanted a second opinion on the new dev in question, since you were pretty much not around. The second opinion had nothing to do with your judgement, but more of "was enough time put into talking to this person, and seeing how much they really understood."


On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Stuart Herbert wrote:

> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:43:15 +0100
> From: Stuart Herbert <stuart@g.o>
> To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] The Gentoo Developer Handbook - Quis custodiet
>     ipsos custodes?
>
> On Tuesday 20 July 2004 13:36, Dylan Carlson wrote:
> > To a limited extent.
>
> The outside world probably doesn't see / know / understand those limits.  And
> I'm not sure every developer has the same viewpoint on what those limits are
> either.
>
> > These days, moreso than the past
> > 7-8 years I've been involved in the open source "stuff", I've seen more
> > people trying to justify their existence by debating countless minutiae on
> > public mailing lists.
>
> Do you think this is a problem that Gentoo is suffering from?
>
> > Ultimately it doesn't matter who mentors who as long as it
> > gets done appropriately.
>
> Obviously it did matter to somebody at the time, otherwise a change in mentor
> wouldn't have happened.  Also, what does it say about confidence in the dev
> who is no longer to be the mentor?  You say it doesn't matter, but it does
> have an impact on how people feel.
>
> Also, from my perspective, this matters going forward.  It makes sense to me
> that devs who are working on web-based apps are mentored by someone from the
> existing herd - or at least that we know they are coming.  To help with this,
> if I put together a webapp-specific set of questions, could they be
> incorporated into the quiz?
>
> I do have a concern that sometimes we try too hard to convert users into devs
> when they're not ready, and on the one occaison where I was involved, my
> concerns were dismissed.
>
> I don't know how other herds feel about this.
>
> > Devrel is the group that makes those decisions.
>
> From the previous emails, I'm reading it that
>
> a) It's not clear when/if devrel took on the role of making those decisions
> (isn't that what recruiters is for?)
> b) It's not clear that devrel *is* the group that makes those decisions
>
> I'm not debating that someone probably has to make those decisions.
>
> Best regards,
> Stu
>

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