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Ian Stakenvicius posted on Fri, 08 Apr 2016 10:50:24 -0400 as excerpted: |
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> On 08/04/16 10:33 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote: |
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>> I'll come back to the links a bit later, but is policykit and its |
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>> predecessor/derivatives now a mandatory part of a linux system? |
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>> Possibly crossing posts here, so apologies in advance .. ! :] |
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> polkit is only required/mandatory AFAIK in relation to dbus, which, |
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> at least for now and at least for non-systemd systems, is also |
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> technically optional. And even within a dbus-managed environment I'm |
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> not sure if it's absolutely mandatory, tbh. |
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Polkit doesn't seem to be necessary here. Systemd (if you're using it) |
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does want (need I believe) dbus, but nothing I'm running, including kde- |
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plasma5 as my desktop, actually requires polkit. |
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Gentoo/kde folks strongly recommend polkit, and I believe it's required |
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by some normal runtime-only dependencies such as the device-notifier and |
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auto-mounter (solid's hardware-detect functionality), via the runtime- |
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only udisks2 (script) dependencies, but udisks2 pulls in all sorts of deps |
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that I don't want, and because udisks2 is a runtime-only script dep, and |
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I don't need nor want or need that automounting functionality in any |
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case, I simply created a stub ebuild for it in my overlay that doesn't |
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actually install any files or have any dependencies. (Of course the old |
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way to do that, via package.provided, can work as well, but it's |
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deprecated, so a month or so ago I switched all package.provided packages |
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to null-packages in my overlay.) |
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Problem solved. No polkit, etc, deps, and inserted storage behaves like |
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I want it to and waits until I issue a mount command or the like, before |
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mounting. =:^) |
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Starting dolphin or gwenview complains to the journald (or syslog, I'm |
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not sure which as it's syslog I actually monitor, with journald set to |
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session-only tmpfs files) about a missing udisks2 dbus service or some |
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such, but they still work, and I configured syslog-ng to filter those |
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messages to /dev/null. =:^) |
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So polkit is definitely not required, even with systemd, dbus, and a kde- |
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plasma5 desktop, tho the latter will require jumping thru some hoops to |
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stub out runtime-only deps. |
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Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. |
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"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- |
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and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman |
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