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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding --as-needed to LDFLAGS in profiles/default/linux/make.defaults
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:05:42
Message-Id: 20100628150519.1d962bb8@snowcone
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding --as-needed to LDFLAGS in profiles/default/linux/make.defaults by Roy Bamford
1 On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:59:21 +0100
2 Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o> wrote:
3 > All of engineering involves compromise.
5 It's not a question of compromise. It's a question of being right vs
6 being wrong. If one person says that 2 + 2 = 4 and a loud mob screams
7 that their prophet revealed to them in a blog post that 2 + 2 = 6, you
8 don't compromise and say that 2 + 2 = 5.
10 > There is no point in waiting for a perfect solution to an engineering
11 > issue if that solution is so far away nobody wants to wait.
12 >
13 > The compromises become political discussions and we have seen plenty
14 > of them already. As its 'the masses' that will implement the
15 > solution, not the idealists, its time to go with the compromise that
16 > has been hammered out elsewhere ... unless of course the idealists
17 > have a patch already.
19 You appear to be assuming that those pushing the --as-needed solution
20 have it finished. This is far from the case. There's still a lot of
21 work that would need to be done, and that work will have to be carried
22 on by every developer indefinitely as new versions of packages come
23 out. It's a case of "the wrong thing requires quite a lot more work
24 before it's ready, and once it's ready everyone will have to carry on
25 working on it forever".
27 --
28 Ciaran McCreesh


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