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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:14:58 -0700 (PDT) |
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"Alec Warner" <antarus@g.o> wrote: |
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> > Better than many other package managers isn't exactly a glowing |
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> > commendation. When you consider the disadvantages associated with a |
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> > source-based distribution, Gentoo has to do a lot better than that |
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> > in order to be worthwhile -- and it only takes one package manager |
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> > to be better to make Gentoo not worth using. The goal should be |
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> > "substantially better than any other package manager"... |
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> Quoting our Philosophy Page: |
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> 'The goal of Gentoo is to strive to create near-ideal tools. Tools |
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> that can accommodate the needs of many different users all with |
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> divergent goals. Don't you love it when you find a tool that does |
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> exactly what you want to do? Doesn't it feel great? Our mission is to |
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> give that sensation to as many people as possible.' |
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Ah, you're confusing goals with goals. |
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> I am unaware of any other goals currently present within Gentoo. I |
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> would imagine people have goals, projects have goals; but gentoo has |
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> none other that the one above. Now you can make the point that |
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> portage is not a 'near-ideal tool' and I'd agree for a large number |
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> of use cases; but at least you'd be making a point against something |
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> thats actually a goal for us instead of some made up goal like |
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> 'compete against Ubuntu/Fedora'. |
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If Ubuntu or Fedora do the job better then Gentoo has failed in its |
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goal of providing a near-ideal tool... |
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> That said; people are working on it. You have been hearing that for |
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> years I know; most of that effort honestly became pkgcore (more or |
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> less). I'm not about to say 'just give portage more time' because |
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> that is a stupid statement to make. However I seriously doubt |
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> paludis or pkgcore is ready to take over management for our users. |
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Mm, and I don't think anyone's making that claim (not until Paludis |
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reaches 1.0.0_pre, anyway, which is at least three major releases |
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off...). The claim that is being made is that Gentoo's future depends |
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upon one or both being ready to take over, and that it's not something |
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that can continue being treated as "sometime in the distant future". |
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Ciaran McCreesh |