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This seems to have never made it to the list, resending.. |
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Hi everybody. |
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Sorry for crossposting, but many people whom I want to catch with this are not |
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on gentoo-science. For the same reason lets keep this initial discussion |
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here, on -dev. If we need to expand, lets take it to the gentoo-science, but |
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then I would expect everybody interested to sign up ;). |
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Gentoo Science has been relatively quiet, even though we are making a steady |
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progress on many fronts, but lately a few things has caught my attention and |
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I think we can do better if create a bit more structure. |
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At present we count 10 categories containing 309 packages (wow! Considering |
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that it all started with some 20 packages I put in sci back when we did not |
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have a two-tier categories yet, quite impressive :)). However looking at |
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herds.xml I see only 10 devs listed, which just cannot be true (considering, |
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according to my experience with bugzilla, that majority of these packages are |
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actually maintained). The real situation is that many devs are quietly |
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supporting their own packages but are reluctant to join the sci team |
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officially. And it is this situation that I want to address. |
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I see one reasonable rationale for this relctance to join: people are |
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afraid "to get too much on theirs hands" by signing up. In reality the |
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gentoo-science mailing list is really low on traffic (quite a relief in |
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present times ;)), but nonetheless the sheer amount of packages may be |
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frightening. Therefore I am proposing to recognize the fact that we |
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(Scientific Gentoo project) became big and act accordingly: |
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1. We need more herds. The easiest possibility is to simply split them |
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accordingly to categories. However, with 10 categories, this may be an |
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overkill, or, with some categories having >50 packages an underkill, or |
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simply may not correspond to maintenance reality (it will definitely fail on |
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sci-libs for example). It is hard to tell without seing who does what, so I |
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am going to ask for some feedback here (see below). |
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2. Should we create some subprojects? This really will have to be discussed in |
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more detail when people respond and join corresponding teams I guess. |
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However, while at it we may as well become a top-level project of our own. |
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Right now Scientific Gentoo is under Dektop, which is at the very least |
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strange (but all the other options back then were even less fitting..) |
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3. Mail aliases. Right now we have sci@g.o, which we should keep as an all |
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encompassing alias for announcements or, well, I am not sure yet what else, |
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but time will tell. In addition we should create new ones, one per herd. If |
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by chance there are people interested in seeing *all* the bugs (which I |
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somehow doubt, but theoretically?), we can reuse sci@g.o for that as well.. |
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So, right now I would like to ask for the feedback on the following: |
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Q1) I would like to hear about the reasons why people are afraid to join the |
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sci team. You may respond to me personally or raise it on the list, but |
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please let me/us know about the problems in any case, so that we may address |
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them! |
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Q2) Please let me know if you are supporting or occasionally touching some |
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package under sci-* and, assuming we create more herds, which herd it should |
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belong to (just make it up as you see fit right now) and whether you would be |
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willing to add yourself to the alias of that herd or join some subteam if we |
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create one. I will collect the responces and then compile a proposal for the |
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new structure. |
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Q3) Not relevant to this restructuring, but always usefull: if you know of |
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some package that you think should really go under sci-something, please let |
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us know! |
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And to finish it all up :) |
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Q4) If you are a user but would like to be involved more actively, or you have |
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to run that particular package for your work but it sits in bugzilla for ages |
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and no developer seems sensible enough to take it up, please let us know too. |
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Best of all - subscribe to that gentoo-scie mailing list and ask somebody to |
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mentor you. By the time it will be over we should have a new structure, so |
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you won't end up with the whole 300+ sci packages on your hands (this was |
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holding some people with whom I discussed it too). |
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This should be enough to start with, so, bring it on! :) |
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George |
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