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Maciej Mrozowski wrote: |
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> Hi there! |
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> Resulting from discussion during last Gentoo KDE team meeting taking place 22 |
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> Oct 2009 at #gentoo-meetings (summary fill be available soon), having Gentoo |
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> GNOME team representative, it's been decided to go ahead with splitting |
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> desktop profile to DE-specific subprofiles, to avoid bloat and provide desktop |
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> specific separation which should result in desktop subprofiles being actually |
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> practical. |
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> It's been proposed to: |
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> - keep 'desktop' profile but strip it from any desktop specific features and |
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> settings, making it default recommended choice for anyone using non-KDE and |
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> non-GNOME desktop environment, yet avoiding USE flags bloat. Any other DE is |
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> free to join and create own DE-specific subprofile if needed. |
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> - create 'KDE' (or 'kde') and 'GNOME' (or 'gnome') subprofiles within |
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> 'desktop' profile and move any desktop specific things there. This should in |
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> theory allow us to not add 'recommended' IUSE defaults to desktop specific |
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> packages, but keep those settings in profile - making profile effectively 'out |
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> of the box' solution for those who need it. |
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> If you have any comments, suggestions, important notices regarding this |
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> change, please keep discussion in gentoo-desktop mailing list. |
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> Thanks |
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As a user and someone who provides support on IRC regularly, I think |
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extra profiles in this manner is unnecessary complexity. At a guestimate |
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there's going to be less than 10 USE flags difference between the profiles. |
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(New) users already find it confusing what the differences between |
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profiles are (the number of users I've seen using a "developer" profile |
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because they do some programming, for example*) and frankly I think |
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having these extra profiles will make some users think you can only have |
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one of kde or gnome. |
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Why are we talking about "out of the box" with a distro that doesn't |
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even come with a pre-compile kernel? Or X installed? Gentoo isn't an |
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"out of the box" distro. If disabling use flags is considered too |
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confusing for users, maybe the entire system needs to be revised. |
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* Why is the developer profile even shown on "eselect profile"? Wouldn't |
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it be better to keep "unsupported" profiles off this list. Surely Gentoo |
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devs can cope with setting their profile manually in favor of a little |
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sanity preservation for the rest of us? |
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