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On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 10:36:34 +0300 |
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Sergei Trofimovich <slyfox@g.o> wrote: |
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> What upstream do you plan to report bugs when user possibly mixes |
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> all of it in one mess? Each of those is known to be unstable. The mix |
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> is just a disaster. |
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They used to do this to us and to kernel upstream before. Why? Because |
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we are unaware. The users just applied their patches, forget about them |
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when they experience problems; then they come and file a bug without |
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us knowing they do use these. Thus we'll ask for a .config and any |
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separate patches the user applied from now on. |
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The mix is just a disaster, but that's up to the user whether he wants |
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to go for such disaster; the patches are guarded using an experimental |
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USE flag and menu config option, if you enable both, you can't expect |
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everything to work fine. Well, maybe it does, if you sparingly enable |
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one or two patches but not all of them. |
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> Is gentoo's kernel team able to resolve user's OOpsen? |
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When patches are applied, we can ask them to try to reproduce it without |
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patches; unless, it is clear from the BUG that an experimental patch is |
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at cause. If they consistently get a BUG with a patch, we can send these |
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users to report this at the patch author; basically we act as a filter |
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before sending these reports upstream. And yes, we do try to resolve |
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some of these on our own. |
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> > Meet CONFIG_DEVTMPFS; forget to enable it, greet a failing boot. |
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> > We're telling users to enable it in some places, in the handbook |
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> > it's a single line you must read, on the Wiki it's kind of missing |
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> > unless you are luckily on the right page, on the Quick Install book |
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> > it is missing too. |
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> Forbid users install udev to ROOT=/ if running kernel does not |
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> support devtmpfs (easy to check by /proc/filesystems) |
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But udev comes as part of stage 3 tarball; so, we would have to change |
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the whole way of installing a system. I think opting to enable it by |
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default for Gentoo kernel sources is a better / less invasive approach. |
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With kind regards, |
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Tom Wijsman (TomWij) |
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Gentoo Developer |
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