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On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 12:04 -0600, darren kirby wrote: |
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> quoth the Chris Gianelloni: |
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> > Seriously, how about instead of these childish "if this happens, I'm |
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> > taking my toys and going home" attitudes, |
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> As opposed to the childish "I don't want to hear from a few outspoken users so |
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> let's close up the list" attitude? |
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Absolutely not. We very much do want to hear. But in a place specific to |
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just that :) |
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> Can you explain to me how giving the devs _more_ work to do is going to help |
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Seems like just the effort of forwarding an email from one list to |
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another. Not much effort there. |
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> Gentoo when getting user contributions, bugfixes, ebuilds etc incorporated in |
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> a timely fashion is already one of the largest problems IMO? |
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Exactly, your pointing out one of the potential largest negative issues |
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around Gentoo. Here's a possible solution. Let's not damn it to much |
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before at least giving it a go. |
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> Seriously, call us all childish if you want |
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Poor choice of words or analogies maybe. |
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> but you need to recognize that |
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> some of us users are seriously concerned about being alienated due to this |
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> proposal. If you insist on shutting out users like this you are basically |
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> giving us all the finger. I would expect this treatment from a SuperMegaCorp |
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> software vendor, not from Gentoo. |
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You could equate it to growth. But it's not about alienation at all. |
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It's about focus, and only effects those that know things as are. |
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To future devs and any new contributing users, they will see -dev as a |
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ml for developer interaction. They will see -project as a place for |
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interaction with the community. |
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I think all will find it beneficial in the long run. If we give it a |
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chance and some time. Should allow for better focus and greater |
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productivity on both front, dev <-> dev, devs <-> world. |
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In the end I put it to growth. So we can focus and make things better |
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all around. Not due to negativity, or etc. Even if everything is all |
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positive. If volume on any list gets to a point where it's productivity |
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declines. Action should be taken. Which isn't motivated by anything |
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negative. |
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I have unsubscribed from lists in the past due to the amount of volume |
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and hardly being able to follow. Pure positive technical development and |
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etc discussions. Just to much ;) |
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William L. Thomson Jr. |
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