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From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:11:00
Message-Id: 201304251410.57679.vapier@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC by William Hubbs
1 On Wednesday 24 April 2013 19:17:01 William Hubbs wrote:
2 > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 06:34:46PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
3 > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 02:16:51PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote
4 > > > Considering our default configuration ships sshd (an argument we don't
5 > > > need to rehash here), it seems a bit silly to not ship networking
6 > > > support by default. I'd rather not do it as part of the system set,
7 > > > though that would be consistent with what we're doing with ssh, and it
8 > > > is still override-able.
9 > >
10 > > To handle the various possible cases, maybe we need a "virtual/net" as
11 > > part of the system set, which can be satisfied by either oldnet or
12 > > newnet or whatever. The install ISO will have a basic working network
13 > > stack (IPV4+IPV6). After the initial install, the admin can do
14 > > whatever. Maybe even invoke package.provided.
15 >
16 > This would actually be cleaner than a bogus dependency in OpenRC.
17 > I would probably call it virtual/network-manager though.
18 >
19 > Are there any issues with putting together a virtual like this and
20 > adding it to @system?
21
22 you've only talked about moving out "oldnet" which means "newnet" remains in
23 openrc. that is technically a provider of virtual/network-init and we're back
24 where we started: the standard Gentoo network init scripts aren't pulled in.
25
26 what providers exactly would you see live in such a virtual ?
27
28 if we do choose to go the virtual route (i don't see value here), i don't
29 think the transitional phase can start there. if anything other than the
30 standard Gentoo network scripts are provided, then it means people will end up
31 with a broken system as portage won't bother installing it. network-
32 manager/wpa_supplicant/etc... are pretty common.
33 -mike

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