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On 12/08/16 18:40, james wrote: |
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> On 08/12/2016 10:39 AM, Kent Fredric wrote: |
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>> On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 09:12:22 -0500 |
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>> james <garftd@×××××××.net> wrote: |
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>>> (also, I'm not hung up on 'Jentoo' as a name; perhaps 'Gintoo'? |
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>>> (peace && hth), |
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>>> James |
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>> Way outside the scope needed here. However we pull off Zhenchoo, its |
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>> going to be built on top of portage and our package management with |
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>> extra bling. |
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>> That's what is necessary to empower people with "ready built" machines |
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>> to customize it in the direction of a "natural gentoo install" |
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>> All this converstation details is: |
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>> - Is a given technique good |
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>> - Can it be installed in tree without breaking things |
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>> - How do we do that |
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>> - Is there a place we can do it where the problem is isolated to a |
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>> narrow spectrum of users to limit potential fallout |
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>> - Is this a "Put warning bells on it and let users blow off their own |
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>> feet and then don't do it by default"[1] thing. |
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>> - Can this be a "Just package.mask the problem on hardened" thing. |
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>> All of those can be combined in some way to get and end result by |
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>> whoever ships the stage 4 the way they want to do it. They can use an |
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>> overlay if they want. |
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>> Nothing is stopping them :) |
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>> Other than themselves of course. |
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> That simple huh? |
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> Ok, show us a solution based on your dashed items, for the current |
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> Valve/Steam/issues, and wrap up those very cool aforementioned games |
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> into a stage 4? |
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> I'd even settle for a liveDVD on that..... Remember:: |
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> Nothing is stopping you, other than yourself of course.... |
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> James |
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Kent's suggestions are quite valid, and indeed a good starting point for |
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anyone wishing to push their ideas forward (deliberately avoiding no |
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names at this point). |
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I can say that Kent is doing a stirling job supporting the Perl project |
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with an enormous amount of effort in keeping Perl current and valid for |
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the Gentoo distribution, and wouldn't be best placed to add to his |
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already full workload - we are all volunteers at the end of the day .. |
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or did someone forget that. |
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I regret to say, although it's a well-known problem .. that the Gentoo |
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bike-shed is never ever going to fall down - as the layers of paint |
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applied will grossly outlive the materials it might once have been built |
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from ... Perhaps someone might like to address the problem of the |
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nuclear reactor which will otherwise never ever be functional ... ;) |
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