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* Tiziano Mueller <dev-zero@g.o> schrieb: |
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Hi, |
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> >since jakub (as always) closes all my bugs, I'll report the issue |
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> >to this list before completely giving up and never ever waste a |
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> >single second on reporting bugs ... |
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> ... and we're grateful to you for that. |
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For reporting this issue or for not reporting anythin in future ? |
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> >Lots of packages have an wrong/unnecessary dependency to |
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> >postgresql. Three cases: |
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> Two. ( a) + b) '=' two cases ) |
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ugh, I first wanted to write about three ones, but while writing |
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this mail I've seen they're actually two, while some packages |
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have both ... ;-o |
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> >a) probably traditionally depended on the whole postgresql, maybe |
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> > since before libpq was an own package. ie. qt, dovecot, ... |
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> No. At least that's not the only reason. |
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Which other reasons do we have ? |
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> Since you reported a duplicated bug-report (bug #158978) for the issue I'm |
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> talking about, I thought you would have noted. |
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Aehm, completely different front. Right, I should have find the dup by |
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myself, but I was quite in a hurry at this time. The alternative would |
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have been not telling anything about any problems I've found. |
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> But let's make it clear: |
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> There is this pg_config app which can be used by other apps to get |
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> includedir/libdir/cflags/ldflags/etc for the postgresql-libraries. |
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> This app has been installed by dev-db/postgresql until the latest |
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> minor version bumps (7.3.16, 7.4.14, 8.0.9-r1, 8.1.5-r1) for which |
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> we have an open stabilization bug (bug #152783). |
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In other words: the splitoff between postgresql and libpg has been |
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buggy in some (older) versions, which are still in use / necessary ? |
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So certain packages importing libpq may require postgresql if |
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libpq's version is too old. |
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I currently see two ways out of this: |
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a) Fix the older libpq versions too. If it's just the missing pg_config, |
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it should be just a few lines to add. |
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b) use multiple-choice-dependencies (||): |
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if libpq is new enough, import it, otherwise import postgresql. |
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I'd prefer the a) and so attached an fixed ebuild for 8.0.8. |
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The change is quite minor, so stableizing should go quite quick here. |
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> Until this bug is closed, stable packages which try to depend only |
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> on libpq instead of postgresql will eventually get an older version |
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> (depending on the arch) and fail. Therefore those bugs are invalid. |
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Ah, and they become valid as soon as the pg_config issue is cleared ? |
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<snip> |
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> >b) many apps (ie. webapps like bugzilla) have postgresql as dep., |
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> > although they do not need it to be installed. (ie. bugzilla does |
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> > not have to do anything directly w/ postgresql, since it uses |
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> > perl-DBD for database access). Of course they maybe want to |
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> > have access to some postgres database, but this obviously does |
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> > not need an local server. |
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> Thanks a lot for pointing this out. But be assured that we already |
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> know about the issue and we will solve it as soon as the mentioned |
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> versions of postgresql are stable on all archs together with the |
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> other dependencies. |
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IMHO, the bugzilla bug could be fixed now, since it's dependency |
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is not necessary at all - or does bugzilla use pg_config ? |
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> And we really don't need help to identify the packages in question, |
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> nor a bug-report for every single one of them, but thanks again. |
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Well, my intention simply was: one bug per job/issue, and each |
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package by it's own. Assuming packages have different maintainers |
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and aren't fixed all at the same time ... |
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> Thanks for reporting the issues and the interest in our work. |
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BTW: the first time I'm reading such words on this list :) |
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cu |
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Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: |
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