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On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 08:37:34 +0200 |
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Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote: |
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> It is always nice when a person who: |
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Starts off with insults and rudeness... Why I avoid you and I have |
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requested MULITPLE times you just avoid me. Almost did not reply, but |
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unlike your comments I will stick to FACTS. |
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> a. did not bother to do any research on the topic (such as reading |
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> previous posts or even asking the relevant teams), |
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Research was done in the form of packaging some python applications. |
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Also having worked with OTHER languages and teams on Gentoo. There are |
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other ways of doing things. For those who are open minded to |
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considering improvements. |
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> b. has barely any clue (if any at all) about Python ecosystem or |
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> package maintenance in Gentoo, |
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Again I have recently packaged some python libraries and applications. |
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I personally maintain some 300+ Java ebuilds and others. |
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https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/os-xtoo |
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I think I have a clue when it comes to package maintenance. I was doing |
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it as a Developer back in 2006 thru 2008... |
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https://github.com/wltjr?tab=overview&from=2006-12-01&to=2006-12-31 |
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> c. is either completely ignorant of how Python packages worked in the |
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> past (which quite proves the points made above) or presumes that they |
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> were changed for no reason by incompetent developers, |
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I have seen it evolve ever since 3.x came out in 2008. The situation |
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was never good and should have gone a different route from the start. |
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Thankfully Java went a different route and other teams never shared the |
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same approach. It is long over due to consider a better way. |
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> decides that the workflow of Python team needs to be changed and goes |
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> to discuss it on the mailing list with other people who barely do any |
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> Python work. |
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Because of how Python is handled on Gentoo. As a developer I would |
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NEVER use python. Just working with a few python libraries and apps, |
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packaging them. Its a PITA compared to Java. |
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If for no other reason than I have to go touch the ebuilds anytime a |
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Python version is added or removed. Same for Ruby. That is dumb... |
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There are some 1600 Python ebuilds. That is ALLOT of work to fiddle |
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with adding/removing targets as new things come and go... Working with |
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hundreds of ebuilds myself. I can easily understand the magnitude of |
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such changes. |
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Even my fully automated scripts, take considerable time to make minor |
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changes across lots of ebuilds. If humans have to do this, it will take |
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MUCH longer. Who wants to waste their time on such? |
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Its funny. In the days of CI and CD, we must manually mess with |
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targets.... There has to be a better way. If not what I am suggesting |
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some other. I do not see any other solutions suggested. Just negativity, |
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insults, and lack of any real facts just opinion and rudeness. |
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Typical status quo... |
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William L. Thomson Jr. |
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