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From: Thomas de Grenier de Latour <degrenier@×××××××××××.fr>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:16:41
Message-Id: 20060407171514.261764cf@eusebe
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations by Ciaran McCreesh
1 On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:21:54 +0100,
2 Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > * If we're looking to increase the flow of end users -> super users ->
5 > developers, perhaps we should focus more upon improving development
6 > tools or development documentation.
7
8 I would also suggest creation of a gentoo-dev-help@ mailing-list.
9 Something similar to what, i guess, the homonym IRC chan is, but for
10 people who don't like IRC. Maybe i'm wrong and that's not the
11 intention, but after 4 years of reading on gentoo-dev@ (yeah, today is
12 anniversary of my subscription - yik, that's more than 36K emails in
13 this maildir) , my feeling is that it's not the right place for users
14 to ask technical questions about development/contributing (ebuilds
15 writing, etc.). It's not that i fear this ML, but i see it mainly as a
16 place for dev-to-dev communication on general/important topics (gleps
17 discussion, common sense reminders, random flamewars, etc.), and thus i
18 see the occasional "How {c,sh}ould i do something?" messages about
19 small details as somehow off-topic, and i tend to avoid posting some.
20
21 Seeing how more numerous this kind of messages are on "Portage &
22 Programming" forums, or on gentoo-user*@ lists, i guess i'm not the
23 only user with such feeling. But forums or users MLs are not really
24 satisfactory for non-obvious questions, because the devs/users rate
25 there is too low.
26
27 So, what i usualy do when i'm not sure about something, in an ebuild i
28 wrote for instance, is to post it as-is on bugs.g.o, with the
29 questions left open in my report. But they will stay unanswered if
30 the bug falls in the "maintainer-wanted@" oubliettes, or if the
31 assignee is too short in time to explain me why he choosed one solution
32 rather than an other. And even if i get my answer, it will be from a
33 single dev, whereas others might have had a different views on the
34 topic.
35
36 Finally, i think such a mainling list could give good hints on what to
37 improve in the documentation. Some legitimate questions may point to
38 real lacks in the documentation, and some answers could be starting
39 point for new chunks to add to the official or unofficial handbooks.
40
41 --
42 TGL.
43 --
44 gentoo-dev@g.o mailing list

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving Gentoo User Relations Michael Cummings <mcummings@g.o>