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From: Tim Yamin <plasmaroo@g.o>
To: Jason Rhinelander <jason@××××××××××××××××.com>
Cc: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] The Gentoo Developer Handbook - Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:14:28
Message-Id: 40FC39AA.4000305@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] The Gentoo Developer Handbook - Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? by Jason Rhinelander
1 > Imagine this situation: DevA argues with DevB about an issue that he
2 > thinks is a mistake. Assume that the argument doesn't contradict the
3 > etiquette policies (i.e. doesn't resort to public name-calling). DevB
4 > gets pissed off that DevA argued against his idea, and contacts his
5 > DevRel pal, DevC, embellishing on a few facts to make it seem like DevA
6 > is breaking some etiquette guidelines.
7
8 This is why DevRel is a "last resort" and resolution of developer to
9 developer issues through the Ombudsmen is the recommended procedure -
10 since we're a team DevB isn't everybody's pal and that should prevent
11 any issues like that.
12
13 [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/ombudsman/index.xml
14
15 "Given the impressive number of Gentoo developers, it is inevitable that
16 occasional clashes will occur between developers and managers and
17 between developers and developers. Establishment of an official
18 ombudsman--one who has been assigned to impartially investigate
19 complaints and settle disputes--is one mechanism to prevent such
20 disputes from escalating out of control."
21
22 > The above doesn't seem so far-fetched - or maybe it is: that document
23 > didn't answer many questions about how the whole devrel process works.
24 > If the devrel policies had a built-in appeal process, it might go a long
25 > way towards alleviating the fears of some devs that devrel is becoming a
26 > sort of "big brother" organisation.
27
28 > DevC, being a good pal of DevB,
29 > believes him, and initiates a suspension process of DevA.
30
31 Since Developer Relations again consists of several ( Currently 11 )
32 people; this again should not be an issue. Also, suspensions are only
33 taken when *every* other option has failed - and DevA has been warned on
34 countless occasions of the same problem.
35
36 > As has also been commented in this thread, a document outlining devrel's
37 > responsibilities and processes would be quite welcome - both for devs
38 > and users, who could use the document as a point of reference in filing
39 > or contesting a devrel complaint or suspension.
40
41 [2] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/
42 [3] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/policy.xml
43
44 "The stated goal for developer relations is to act as a meeting point
45 for Gentoo developers and advanced users both. As such, developer
46 relations is concerned with both intra-developer relations as well as
47 forming relations with advanced users and prospective developers."
48
49 The policy [3] outlines more on how we aim to do this job - hope this helps!
50
51 Thanks!
52
53 | Tim Yamin: plasmaroo@g.o
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55 | Gentoo Linux Developer Relations
56 | Gentoo Linux X86 Core and Kernel Team
57 | Gentoo Security and GLSA Security Systems
58 | Gentoo Scientific and EDA Package Development

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