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On N, 1970-01-01 at 00:00 +0000, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: |
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> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote: |
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> > You are right. In case users really intend to use that, they may be |
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> > better using app-portage/install-mask, and: |
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> > $ install-mask -a systemd |
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> > which will add just the right path. |
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> Still misses the point. USE flags were invented to deal with these |
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> options. On a default install, which uses OpenRC, users shouldn't have |
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> to then emerge an additional program to add more configuration in |
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> order to have a clean system. |
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USE flags are not meant for controlling every little thing, such as |
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conditional installing a 400 byte file that does no harm when not used, |
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other than taking 1 block of filesystem space (4kB or so), which can be |
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workarounded by INSTALL_MASK if you are building an embedded system. I |
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seriously doubt they were invented for such a purpose, but rather to |
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control ./configure arguments and external dependencies. |
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No, wanting to get rid of those on a desktop/server via a USE flag (as |
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opposed to an INSTALL_MASK) is not a consideration, as that's users |
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completely unneeded desire for no technical reason. If taking 500kB |
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total for systemd service files is an issue, then the issue really is |
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that you are using a 1GB /usr partition or something. |
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This all is similar to how we in GNOME unconditionally install user and |
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developer documentation, as long as it does not impose any extra build |
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time or downloads. |
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(no, this is not really negotiable for change, and we are talking about |
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more than 400 byte files here; we'd be happy however if portage binary |
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packages supported splitting of the source packages files to separate |
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packages, so that binary distribution derivatives could work in a |
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similar model as purely binary distributions) |
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USE flags typically control the functionality of compiled binaries, |
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usually involving external dependencies to achieve such extra |
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functionality. |
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http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=2#doc_chap1_sect2 |
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Best Regards, |
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Mart Raudsepp |
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