Re: Antwort: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo could become certified for IBM Server Hardware

[Omkhar Arasaratnam]

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M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:

> I was just going to say something similar, although I'm not an
> employee of IBM. Gentoo's parent organization is non-profit, and
> IBM is a for-profit international corporation. That means, at least
> in the USA, that any such agreement would need to be negotiated and
> approved by what Stan Freberg referred to as "a battery of
> white-lipped attorneys". I was surprised to see Debian on the
> original list for the same reason. Can someone confirm there is
> actually an IBM certification for Debian?
>
> BTW, here in the USA, for all practical purposes, if you want a
> corporate blessing for Linux on a particular hardware platform,
> your choices are pretty much constrained to Red Hat Enterprise
> Linux. IBM, HP and Dell I believe all have corporate agreements
> with Red Hat, and I wasn't even aware of SUSE being present in the
> approved list. The only other "corporate blessed Linux" I know of
> is the Wal-Mart low end PC that comes with Linspire loaded on it.
>
> Omkhar Arasaratnam wrote:
>
>> daniel.kerwin@×××××××.de wrote:
>>
>>> First of all there are a lot of questions to answer:
>>
>>> - Who can do the certification? - What must be done to become
>>> certified? - What hardwaretypes will IBM offer? - Will the
>>> hardware stay at IBM or somewhere else?
>>
>>> Aside all IBM customers should request support for Gentoo from
>>> IBM because they'll only take this serious if many customers
>>> request support.
>>
>> Being an IBM employee in my day job I can provide some insight
>> here.
>>
>> NO
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> I have an extremely hard time believing that IBM would endorse a
>> community supported distro. The only distros that IBM supports
>> are corporate backed (RedHat, Suse, Turbo). So unless Gentoo is
>> under going a major change in the near future. That said - I'm
>> frequently wrong ;-) But hey, let us know what you find out
>>
>> -- Omkhar Arasaratnam - Gentoo PPC64 Developer omkhar@g.o
>> - http://dev.gentoo.org/~omkhar Gentoo Linux / PPC64 Linux:
>> http://ppc64.gentoo.org
>
>
It's definately possible that we're comparing apples to oranges here.

What *EXACTLY* is meant by support?
1. Will IBM throw some h/w to Gentoo for free - yes.
2. Will IBM assist with packaging some utilities if we raise enough of
a stink - maybe
3. Will IBM assist a customer with break/fix, SLA'ed support or
preload Gentoo on any server - hell no

What do we mean by "support". Please bear in mind IBM DOES NOT support
Debian in this fashion AFAIK. IBM may assist with development to some
small extent but if a customer calls in and ask for support - they're
up a creek.

So what are we looking for ? Like I stated before, IBM only officially
supports RHEL, SLES, Turbo Linux.


- --
Omkhar Arasaratnam - Gentoo PPC64 Developer
omkhar@g.o - http://dev.gentoo.org/~omkhar
Gentoo Linux / PPC64 Linux: http://ppc64.gentoo.org
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